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Offline martha focker

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« on: March 19, 2007, 22:42:59 »
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 01:06:52 »
looks no different to me apart from the land rover across the bonnet

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 06:47:22 »
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looks no different to me apart from the land rover across the bonnet

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Bonnet bulge and slightly modded front are as much as i can see Dan. The engine, 2.4 common rail with a six speed box are new.
Transit van type set up now is it not?
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 07:27:41 »
The interior is also completely redone
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 07:56:36 »
Seen it? I've driven it!

Not off-road as yet, but it certainly an improvement on the road. Unless you're bigger than average build....

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 09:34:28 »
Anyone going to LR offroad event for the new fender?
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 13:50:37 »
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looks no different to me apart from the land rover across the bonnet

dan


Bonnet bulge and slightly modded front are as much as i can see Dan. The engine, 2.4 common rail with a six speed box are new.
Transit van type set up now is it not?


oh yeah didnt see the bulge lol

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2007, 13:55:06 »
Mine drops off the production line at Lode Lane pretty soon.

3 weeks i hope to take delivery...
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2007, 14:40:56 »
Don't forget the lack of vents now on the bulkhead too.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2007, 19:30:34 »
Nice that, When I heard they were re-vamping it I was worried they were going to do something radical and make it into something completely different, I am off to the commercial vehicle show at the end of april and hopefully there might be one to have a closer look at!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 19:57:42 »
nice bit of kit, greatly improved interior at last!
looks like in the video it has bulkhead flaps?
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2007, 20:31:12 »
saw this yesturday, couldn't see the front to see if it was a "new" new one

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2007, 20:35:08 »
Quote from: "Eeyore"
Seen it? I've driven it!

Not off-road as yet, but it certainly an improvement on the road. Unless you're bigger than average build....

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thats me out then :( 7 foot and erm large build :P
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 21:48:16 »
That VK07 one has a 2495cc's acording to the DVLA so looks like you've not spotted one yet.

Is it just me or does the defender not carry any badges baring its name anymore? Is land rover that ashamed of it? The rear badge seems to have disapeared in the last few years but now the front ones gone too.

Smug grinns for me though, "new LED dashbord lights", I've had that in my series 1 for a couple of years now!
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 21:55:23 »
bonnet bulge..... bin it. :shock: i still dont like it

also still not into the idea of basically having a transit engine in a land rover... doesnt seem right. maybe im completely wrong and it will be excellent............... but it doesnt seem right.

i'll stick with our 200, which even only slightly tuned up pulls like a train
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 22:12:34 »
Transit engines have so much get up and gone now speed limiters are on the option's list for tranny van's so i don't think the engine will let it down
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2007, 23:28:28 »
Trust me, the Puma engine pulls, and with the electric turbo - there's no noticable lag (which lets the 300 down badly, and as for the 200.....).

Fitting it reduces the cost of vehilce build, and gives us an engine with a far cheaper range of spares than the TD5. The clutch is Land Rover so should have plenty of miles and the gearbox is far better than the version in the D3 (man them gates have tough springing). I would have suspected that the later R380 boxes would have been man enough for the job but were again cost-prohibitve to keep building.

Biggest issue is that the new gearbox tunnel has forced the seat further outboard. Hell, I'm used to Defenders and I felt close to the doors. The dash feels mightly close to your knees too.

The rear tub is heavily reinforced to accomodate the extra seating. Most changes were necessary to meet new vehicle build standards (the old Defender was outlawed for production in December, basically).

Driving it? Well, it's a Defender, so the steering has lots of feel and weight, the peddles have lots of feel and weight and the ride is typical. Springing wasn't hard enough for my liking, but thats a personal thing. Pulling away from roundabouts I wasn't stirring the stick as I expected with a 6-speed (and like I had to do with the D3) - any one of 3 gears kinda did the job and power delivery was consistant and sustained (no waiting for the dang turbo to sing up). IMV the engine showed greater tractability than the 6 pot in the D3, although overall the power was a fair chunck less. It was, IMV a nicer drive from that respect. I think this a down to a factor of a better engine management strategy, and better engine for the job and about 3 quaters of a ton less mass to move!  :lol:

Only my view and only from an on-road perspective. I would like the oppotunity to drive one off-road, but that has yet to happen. Maybe some time..........

HTH

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