defender axle swap

[philbert]

Anyone fitted defender or rangie axles on to a series motor?
looking to keep the leaf springs though not wanting to make it a coiler.
any hints or tips most welcome.

got a good set of defender of the tdi im breaking and quite fancy discs alround on the series.
 

 cheers

[Rich_P]

Anyone fitted defender or rangie axles on to a series motor?
looking to keep the leaf springs though not wanting to make it a coiler.
any hints or tips most welcome.

got a good set of defender of the tdi im breaking and quite fancy discs alround on the series.
 

 cheers

Why do you want Discs?  The Drum brakes should be more than enough up to the job.

[philbert]

2 reasons
the motor has a smattering of ACR parts and needs good stoppers!

i fancy the wider track for RTVs

[muddy_90]

ive heard the back axle is the easiest to fit but the front is a right pain in the neck to do,
why not fit 11" brakes all round, they should improve the braking

[philbert]

11" brakes would be easier !
but i have a pair of rebuit defender axles sitting here doing nothing and fancy having discs alround and stronger axles.

[Rich_P]

The halfshafts are weak for a reason.  What would you rather have snap?  A gearbox mainshaft, propshaft that will smash the underside of the LR to bits or a halfshaft go bang and just lose drive on that axle?  

[S188]

It can and has been done before.  I think the hard bit is getting the steering rods in the right place as coilers have the track rod behind the axle which fowls the diff or springs.

I saw a 109 with a nicely done setup being trialed a couple of years ago (I think its turning circle was better than my 88 S1! And he was still aloud to shunt.).  The owner was from the shropshire land rover club (not quite sure on the name) and he said they'd made some plans as to how to do it.  I'd try aproching that club to find out who it was, he was happy to explain it.  Sadly my memory can't remember it.

[philbert]

Glen
thanks for that will do some searching

phil

[zimsoundz]

Evening guys,

Great site here :)

I've been looking at swapping the front axel in particular on mine to a defenders to get some added width due to the fact that my wheels rub on my springs when turning (got bronco grizzly's 285R16).

Apart from the fact that i'm pretty sure they're a bit narrower, will it be ok to run a defender 90's on the front and a salsbury on the rear, as i've got one of those already.

Also as said above, disks would be nice :)

Cheers

Gordon
P.S. this is my little 3.5 v8 toy which sits quite high :) The front bull bars & wich were missing at this time.

[Rich_P]

The axles are wider, so wheel arch extensions are likely to be required (ala Defender).  But otherwise, you shouldn't have any issues as long as you convert the axles to leafs properly.

[waldini]

i have just put rangie axles in my series2a easy job. back is easy front is a bit tricky.well worth doing.grind off the old spring mounts weld on new spring perchs job done.

[zimsoundz]

The axles are wider, so wheel arch extensions are likely to be required (ala Defender).  But otherwise, you shouldn't have any issues as long as you convert the axles to leafs properly.

cheers.

do you know if the diff ratio's are the same (i.e. defender front and salsbury rear) ? if not, will this not cause me trouble in 4wd.

i have just put rangie axles in my series2a easy job. back is easy front is a bit tricky.well worth doing.grind off the old spring mounts weld on new spring perchs job done.

i don't suppose you managed to source new spring perch brackets by any chance ?

Gordon

[Rich_P]

The diff ratios are indeed different to a standard Series.

[S188]

As you can slap rangie diffs (3.54:1) in a series I guess you could fit a series (4.7:1) diff in a rangie axle?  Would be easyer than changeing the diff an a sulsbury as you need to spread the caseing to get the diff out of them so I've herd.  You wouldn't be able to drive very well with a 32% difference in axle speeds even on loose ground!

My series 1 is slightly Crab Tracked I think, having what I suspect is a series 2 front axle and a proper series 1 rear.  Total track difference is about 1.5" and to be honest its slightly anoying off road.  Boingy axleas are about 7" wider (at least) than a 2 if I remember right so that could make it even worse.  Having said that my problem is probubly due mainly to the S1 axle being so narrow and not fitting modern wider ruts properly (ie coiler ruts) rather than the different axle tracks.  I have a stardard series 1 aswell and that hops around in ruts about the same.  

By Chance I used to have a series 1 with a wider axle on the rear, that drove fine though was only used in ruts cut by it and other series landys and a narrow Daihatsu F50.  It did however keep looseing its hubcaps as they stuck out of the arches and could easily clip a tree (or a gate if your cutting it fine).

[Welshbreed]

series 3 109's come with salsbury axles on the rear. I think you need to modify a 109 prop shaft to fit the 88, but this is apparently quite easy.

This site is quite informative, on many things related to land rovers, here's the page to info on salsbury axles
http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/landRoverFAQ/FAQ_salisbury.htm

here's the link to the site
http://www.expeditionlandrover.info

[Paul Woodward]

Have a look at these two threads on other forums. They will give you the general idea.

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=12046

http://forum.difflock.com/discus/messages/5/71555.html

[philbert]

Thanks