Rusted drive flange prob

[Hangover]

Was going to fit the front discs on the 90 today but found that the drive flange has rusted solid on the cv joint :( ,removed the rubber hub cap and it was just rust,put the angle grinder with the wire brush on it and the circlip has disapeared plus it's groove,what are we going to need parts wise to do the job properly,i presume some serious heat is needed on the flange.
Thanks,
Kev

[mmgemini]

Nobody seems to want to answer you  :roll:

Have you tried Plus Gas on the rusted bits. Try taking the flange bolts out, knocking the drive shaft in. Then seeing if the flange will work loose from the hub. Plenty Plus Gas should free the bits off.

I'll not comment on what you might need. It's a long time since I took all that lot to bits.  :oops:

Whan you come to refit everything. Put a bit of gear oil in the rubber cap. That helps to keep the splines lubricated. I do that on each service. Also I've damaged the inner axle seals to let gear oil come along the halfshaft.
Is there any oil in the diff ??

my ten bobs worth.

[Hangover]

I was suprised at the amount of rust,the trucks done 100k so looks like it's never had new discs,i reckon i'll be buying new flanges an cv's the way things are going.
kev

[extreme90]

if you cleaned all the splines up on the cv, remove or break what evers left of the circlip
warm the drive flange up and hit the cv with a copper hammer, theres usualy about half inch of endfloat on them so theres enough there to get it moving,
in the end of the cv is a threaded section put there so you can pull the damn cv out after you pushed it in when fitting the flange , stick a bolt in there and pull the cv back out

then its just a matter of working it and adding some wd40 to help it onits way

dan

[Hangover]

if you cleaned all the splines up on the cv, remove or break what evers left of the circlip
dan

Great i wasnt sure how far the cv would go back with hammering,there's nothing left of the circlip or it's groove,would it be ok to make another groove with a hacksaw as it seems a shame to replace the cv just for that.
Kev

[extreme90]

a grove cant dissapear  :lol: ..if you no what i mean, its there some where and thatll be your problem  
there will be two washers (shims) and then your circlip, so where ever the washer end is where the circlip goes, clean the grove out and then you can remove the flange

dan

[Hangover]

a grove cant dissapear  :lol: ..if you no what i mean, its there some where and thatll be your problem  
there will be two washers (shims) and then your circlip, so where ever the washer end is where the circlip goes, clean the grove out and then you can remove the flange

dan

Believe me Dan this groove has gone,i had to prize the rubber hub caps off and what was underneath looked like something off the Titanic.

[extreme90]

is it a good un then  :lol:
seriously tho, its there, clean it up good, you need that groove showing before the flange will come off or else your wasting your time as the splines on the flange wont pass over it

dan

[Hangover]

This pic should show how bad it is but i think i can save it.

[extreme90]

rust's holding that in, can see abit of the groove but not much, but even so, the flange is solid, you tried whacking it with a copper hammer yet ?
dan

[Hangover]

Yes i gave it a bit of a whack but had to abort it as need vehicle on the road,both sides are the same but i reckon if i can get the flanges off with a load of heat i could be able to save the cv's,can you tell me what the score is with the shims as as you see they disapeared into rust.
Thanks,
Kev

[extreme90]

erm, only thing i can suggest is when its all stripped and then built back up, see what end float there is and just try take some of the play out with some washers, i will have a look around for you though, i might have some kicking around back here you never no  :roll:

dan

[Hangover]

Cheers all for the replies.
Kev