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Offline Iain C

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Dislocation cones & shocks, have I got them right?
« on: May 19, 2007, 21:21:01 »
Fitted the front half of my +2 kit today, however concerned about a couple of things...

The shockers (procomp 9000), rather than being central in the front cones, are very much towards the inside front when the vehicle is at rest.  Is this normal?  

Also, the shock ends (the threaded bit at the very bottom) are very nearly touching the top of the axle when I wound the nut up.  From the bottom, my shocks go nut-washer-rubber-axle mount-rubber-washer-shock, the old ones went nut-washer-rubber-small washer-axle mount-small washer-rubber-washer-shock if that makes sense.  However I don't think that the extra washers would have made any difference.

And the gaiter on the front seems pointless, it's hidden away inside the shock turret and I'm more worried about it being a mud-trap rather than actually protecting anything, what do people usually do on the front about gaiters?

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2007, 22:14:37 »
From memory that arrangement of washers etc is correct. Yes, the end of the thread is very close to the axle tube - they bend when you land after 3ft altitude at 50mph but it doesn't seem to affect them too badly.

Lots of people, myself included, don't bother with the gaiters at all, either end or the car.

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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2007, 22:21:17 »
Iain, i found that my shocks actually used to hit the exle on bumps, so i took a 1/4 inch off the bottom when they were off one day.... no more funny clonks!!

Washers etc correct!!!

Did you try seeing if it made any difference if you fitted the turrets 180degrees round??
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2007, 23:58:23 »
Bemused............., am I missing something :?:

How can the shock absorber hit the axle if its installed correctly :?:

There's a gap between shock and axle, and if its been put together correctly, how can it move up and down :?:

Re the turrets, if there the standard Disco fit, then they should be central in all plains...., as they sit on a square/flat mounting.

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2007, 00:18:40 »
The thing is Chris, there is a rubber above the shock, therefore when you go over a big enough bump, the shock moves downwards slightly, hitting the axle casing..... i didn't want to punch a hole in the axle, plus the clonking was damn annoying.....
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2007, 00:25:51 »
I'm guessing the issue stems from the fact that on the Procomps the threaded part of the shocker is longer than standard for whatever reason...I tightened the tops down to a sensible amount and I have about 3/4 inch of threaded part visible above the nut, and it's basically just a similar story at the other end!
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2007, 09:17:41 »
The size and condition of your bushes have a big effect on the amount of thread that actually sticks out. I have decarbon shocks on mine and couldn't fit the polybushes from the kit i'd bought on, even by jacking the axle.

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2007, 10:46:34 »
The square tails of my pro comp shocks come down close to the top of the axle.
I've not seen any denting of scuffing beneath them so I dont belive they are coming into contact with the axle, however I reckon some firmer bushes would move it further away.
The pro comp bushes seemed very soft in my opinion, I'll be changing mine soon.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2007, 12:32:55 »
Quote from: "Lyndsey731"
The size and condition of your bushes have a big effect on the amount of thread that actually sticks out. I have decarbon shocks on mine and couldn't fit the polybushes from the kit i'd bought on, even by jacking the axle.

Gav


I would recommend avoiding polybushes on procomp shocks, especially on the rear!

The supplied bushes are a lot softer than the polybush ones and sharp jolts can spearate the top ring on the rear from the shock absorber. I know this because the first time I really tested my vehicle off road after fitting the suspension and bushes I did exactly that!

Funny thing is a wise man told me before we went out that I'd probably snap a shock because of the polybushes!

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2007, 20:16:07 »
I have now broken 2 rear procomps due to polybushes, so, it's got rubber ones now....!!
gone from 200tdi.... to 300tdi... still with loads done to it, in fact, even more than the last truck...LOL!!!

 






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