MOT Question

[Evilgoat]

Have a car I'm sorting out for a friend. Having sorted all the niggles I'm left with a rust patch to sort.

Thing is, we cantr agree on it being an MOT faulre or not. Its penetrative rust (2 holes) on the wing where it meets the sill, the sill itself is sound, its just the wing inside the doorframe thats shot. It shouldnt be hard to patch but does it even need it? Dont beleive its a structural comonenet as the sill under it meets the subframe further back and a huge box section that contains the suspenstion mount etc. All this does is fill the gap between sill and structural member.

[TDi90]

try it   8)

[Evilgoat]

try it   8)

Expensive guess if wrong :(

[Terranosaurus]

What car is it?

[Evilgoat]

Audi 80 2.0E Auto 1991. Rea Subframe and indept suspention rather than the newer beam axle

[Tinks]

Rust should only count if it is within a 30cm zone of any saftey feature, ie seat belt anchorage.  If if fails you have a ten day period in which to do the repairs and present for restest ( retest is not normally charged for as is only a particial test & the tester will only check what he failed! )
 

[Terranosaurus]

If it's part of the outer wing I would have thought it would not be a fail, if part of the inner it will no doubt be though. Is it at the rear or the front? Remember golden riles is within 30cm of load bearing member, so chassis rails, sills, inner wings, seat belt mounting points etc, doesn't leave much except the outer panel work.

[Highlander1]

Don't forget if it's a rust hole sharp edges will cause it to fail if it's likely to cause someone to get hurt ,"includes wee kids" even if it's not structural.

Outside wing on front would be ok. inner wing is part of a post structural.

Cheers JB

[mmgemini]

If there is a hole I think it will fail because it is dangerous to pedestrians.
I would cover it with Tank Tape.

[Evilgoat]

Don't forget if it's a rust hole sharp edges will cause it to fail if it's likely to cause someone to get hurt ,"includes wee kids" even if it's not structural.

Outside wing on front would be ok. inner wing is part of a post structural.

Cheers JB

Dont thing I was clear where it is. If you imagine the rear door. The holes are in the upper suface thats normally covered by the door where the slii comes down to meet the outer wing, the door striker is about a foot further up. It has plastic trim over it (sure thats why it went). It would take a really bizarre accident to come into contact with it and I'm sure that would be the least of anyones troubles :) I'll try get a pic, might be clearer.

[Terranosaurus]

I'll try get a pic, might be clearer.

Do, cos thats sound like its just the upper part of the sill.

[Evilgoat]

I'll try get a pic, might be clearer.

Do, cos thats sound like its just the upper part of the sill.

Ok, theres a seam there, its on the seam where upper sill meets wing. Sill is intact, its the wing thats gone/going.

Leaning towards patching it anyhow.

[hobbit]

If it was me I would patch it, as it will only get worse, and if it was not a failure point you showed willing by doing it anyway

[Terranosaurus]

I'll try get a pic, might be clearer.

Do, cos thats sound like its just the upper part of the sill.

Ok, theres a seam there, its on the seam where upper sill meets wing. Sill is intact, its the wing thats gone/going.

Leaning towards patching it anyhow.

Its with 30cm of the sill then - FAIL.

[Evilgoat]

I'll try get a pic, might be clearer.

Do, cos thats sound like its just the upper part of the sill.

Ok, theres a seam there, its on the seam where upper sill meets wing. Sill is intact, its the wing thats gone/going.

Leaning towards patching it anyhow.

Its with 30cm of the sill then - FAIL.

Thanks, thats what I wanted to know :) Trip to le grage tomorrow methinks to get a quote.

[grunty]

if its within a foot of any suspension mount or seatbelt mount, which being there it probably is, its a fail. weldit anyway its an easy patch
alan