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« on: June 05, 2007, 09:22:47 »
Did anyone see (& record) this programme last Saturday evening?
It was on BBC between 20:00 & 21:00, the presenter was Jeremy Clarkson


Now before anyone says that 'Jezza' immediately puts them off watching anything, think again.......

He 'does' documentary extremely well.

Think of his impassioned plea for Isambard Kingdom Brunel when Auntie Beeb had the Greatest Britain contest a few years ago.

Obviously he has a personal interest in the last VC winner he mentioned (Major Robert Cain), as in the closing minute he revealed that Cain was his father-in-law



So now the plea  :roll:

I missed it this time around & have lost my tape of it, so........ did anyone record it onto; VHS, DVD, hard-drive & is willing to provide me with a copy (for suitable recompense of course)

Please

(unless you know if it's re-appearing on BBC 3, or BBC4)

By The Way;
There's an excellent interview with Lt/C Johnson Beharry in the 'Yorkshire Post'[/i] this morning
(not available on the 'YP' website yet)
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 10:45:39 »
this the one?




DOCUMENTARY: The Victoria Cross: for Valour
On: UKTV History (537)    
Date: Thursday 19th July 2007 (starting in 44 days)
Time: 22:00 to 23:00 (1 hour long)

Jeremy Clarkson presents a tale of incredible heroism. In September 1944, Major Robert Cain won what was described as the finest Victoria Cross of World War Two. To find out exactly what Cain did to win his medal, Jeremy travels to the scene of the battle, meets eyewitnesses and talks to military experts. Along the way the story behind the world's highest award for valour is revealed through archive accounts and living recipients.
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=129565

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 11:08:51 »
Saw the end but sadly didn't tape it..Clarkson does do documentaries very well
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 11:28:33 »
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 14:20:55 »
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this the one?


DOCUMENTARY: The Victoria Cross: for Valour
On: UKTV History (537)    
Date: Thursday 19th July 2007 (starting in 44 days)
Time: 22:00 to 23:00 (1 hour long)


That's the one Dyfed

'wing nut'; thanks
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Re: The Victoria Cross: For Valour
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 20:34:41 »
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By The Way;
There's an excellent interview with Lt/C Johnson Beharry in the 'Yorkshire Post'[/i] this morning
(not available on the 'YP' website yet)



It is now


I know the fact that senior officers have to salute him really means that they are honouring the VC as much as him, but I'd love to see someone the 'Top Brass' standing to attention & saluting him as he enters a room.

As 'wing nut' stated earlier regarding the addition of the programme onto 'You Tube', I watched the last part.

In it (at about 8:10 minutes) Clarkson mentions the fact that we 'seem to have lost the plot', as David Beckham is often called a hero.

Is it just him & me who see something wrong there??



* well some people & the media do




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The end of Doctor Who on Saturday was very touching (& I don't mind admitting made my eyes prickle) when the young lad (Latimer) is seen in the trenches of WW1.
 
The next scene sees him as an old man at a Remembrance Day service & he sees Martha & the Doctor standing at the other side of the village green.
 
What a poignant moment :cry:
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Re: The Victoria Cross: For Valour
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 20:29:41 »
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The next scene sees him as an old man at a Remembrance Day service & he sees Martha & the Doctor standing at the other side of the village green.
 
What a poignant moment :cry:


"...and in the morning... we will remember them"

That and last post always give me goosebumps. Know some guys over the years who paid the price and after umpteen years of attending... it's kinda ingrained. Something few people these days seem to understand.  :(

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 21:23:01 »
“Lead me from death to life, from falsehood to truth; Lead me from despair to hope, from fear to trust; Lead me from hate to love, from war to peace; Let peace fill our heart, our world, our universe”
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 14:57:41 »
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The next scene sees him as an old man at a Remembrance Day service & he sees Martha & the Doctor standing at the other side of the village green.
 
What a poignant moment :cry:


"...and in the morning... we will remember them"

That and last post always give me goosebumps. Know some guys over the years who paid the price and after umpteen years of attending... it's kinda ingrained. Something few people these days seem to understand.  :(


Yes agreed, same here
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 22:32:11 »
Just bought the Johnson Beharry book this afternoon.

On a very brief reading, it looks interesting
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 22:45:16 »
i see in the paper today one of the most highly decorated WW2 rear gunners sadly died having flown 50 odd missions and on one downing 3 enemy fighters :shock:
Its hard to imagine what guys like him went through doing their duty
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 22:35:03 »
I think it's really bad that many modern schoolkids know nothing of the sacrifice made by some of these guys.  I have no interest in 1066 and stopped doing history as quickly as I could, but as an engineer I became fascinated by history post industrial revolution.  Every war seems to have been caused by the previous one and the cold war was caused by the ailing Roosevelt not being able to stand up to Stalin but sidelining Churchill, who saw it all coming as early as 1944.

Our freedom to ignore our history was bought with the lives of thousands on servicemen, there's the paradox.

Perhaps then our collective ignorance is their tribute :roll:
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2007, 23:21:25 »
It seems to me that this country has become very 'staid' in its reactions to the heroic deeds of its citizens.
I went to Normandy last year and did a tour of most of the main places that featured in the Overlord Landings.
What struck me most of all was the difference in the way that the different nations commemorated the fallen and the actual events.
I can only put this down to the British 'matter of fact' 'stiff upper lip' way of thinking.
Before I start getting flak on this, I am not saying that is wrong, in fact as a Brit, I am quite proud of that ability that we as a nation have.
I just think it is a shame that any display of rememberance or commemoration is seen by the 'modern thinking' sections of society, as 'not PC'.
I find it amazing that the great majority of organisations that exist to celebrate our past, are paid for voluntary contributions!
Again I think this is just part of the way that this nation is declining into a satelite state.
A real shame.
I have never fought for my Country, but my son has, as did my father and grandfathers. I feel extremely proud of what they have done, and also very proud of all members of all the Armed Forces who have done and continue to do a very difficult job, in the most extreme circumstances.

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2007, 14:28:28 »
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Just bought the Johnson Beharry book this afternoon.

On a very brief reading, it looks interesting


Got to have a good dig into it this morning, what a great book!
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2007, 16:05:39 »
Was reading in the local rag yesterday about Corporal Steve Prior of 2 Para who died at Goose Green whilst trying to rescue a wounded comrade. He came from Brighton. Brighton & Hove council are refusing (and have been for the last 25 years) to add his name to the War memorial. The reason? ... the War memorial is a "listed building"

There's respect for the ultimate sacrifice for you.

 






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