tree cables

[kizz81]

hello,
how do i go about getting and fitting the tree cables from roof rack to bull bar  like the ones you see on a camel trophey defender?
thankyou kieran

[SteveG]

yachting supplies.

Just in case you are not aware, there are legalities about using these on road and I would advise not to have them in use when on road in UK.

Cheers

Steve

[redhand]

hello,
how do i go about getting and fitting the tree cables from roof rack to bull bar  like the ones you see on a camel trophey defender?
thankyou kieran

Fit an eye bolt to the front wing and buy a thin steel cable from B&Q etc as well as the bits needed to splice to eyelets in the cable, 2 small shackles and a turnbuckle (double ended adjustable hook) and fit a 2nd eyebolt to the roof or rack attach one end of cable to bottom eyebolt and other end of cable & turnbuckle to top eyelet tighten cable by turning turnbuckle. To remove undo shackles.

[diggerdog36]

What are the cables for??

[TDi90]

on narrow lanestopush branches out of the way of your motor.
i.e to stop them hitting ur windscreen.

[kizz81]

cheers for the advice ill get some parts n sit there sctraching my head for a while then probly post back  :lol:  :lol:

i have looked into the law bit and as far as i could tell they are legal on roads .
cheers kieran

[Thrasher]

...oh no...here we go again :)

C&U - your vehicle was not built with them....

[smo]

...oh no...here we go again :)

C&U - your vehicle was not built with them....

C&U?? Is that good or bad because if bush wires are illegal, then what about bull bars (ok - they are now!) winch bumpers, tree sliders etc...the vehicles were not built with them either.

[Eeyore]

It's all related to the diameter of forward facing radii, or something daft like that, and not adding things to the frontal aspect of your vehicle that will increase the liklehood of injury to a pedestrian.

Bull bars have already gone, new bumper regs have come into force, how long before winches are identified as a potential hazard?

Before anyone leaps up and has a go, as Mods and Admins we are kinda duty bound to highlight this sort of point. It stops any risk of us getting drawn into legal wranglings if someone gets collared for something potentially inappropriate because 'they read it on a forum'.  

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[marsie]

construction and use is a grey area to say the least :roll: .I think the main concern with tree wires is if you run somebody over and they roll onto the bonnet,the wires could cause damage to them,in the same way as it is now illegal to fit fixed bonnet mascots
Paul :twisted:

[rollazuki]

An interesting and pertinent point I thought of was:

If a car with open suspension is presented for SVA, and the diameters of bolts and fasteners etc are not of the correct radius, then it fails. However if you put a temporary bumper in front of them of the correct radius, then they are exempt. IE in my case, twas a lotus 7 replica with a dummy bumper in front of the nose cone.(basically a bull bar for a lotus?)

So I wonder, if the wires are behind a C&U OK bumper, are they still an inspectable item?

???

[Terranosaurus]

So I wonder, if the wires are behind a C&U OK bumper, are they still an inspectable item?

Might make it difficult to see where your going.

[kizz81]

i wouldnt of thought so unless you were hanging your washing off of them :lol:

[Terranosaurus]

i wouldnt of thought so unless you were hanging your washing off of them :lol:

Not because of the wires, but if you put a bumper infront of them.

[redneck]

I've been giving some thought on tree cables as I would like to fit some to my Pajero for laning, the way I intend to do it is by having eye bolts or eye plates on the roof and also on top of the wing tops or bullbar, having the cable attached with a small shackle to these with a turnbuckle to put a bit of tension in them, I also intend to have the cables sheathed in rubber or plastic tubing. I reckon that's about as safe as they can be made  :?  as they can be taken off when not doing overgrown lanes or when on asphalt.

[kizz81]

you can buy the cable that has a plastic coaing on from b&q saw it today but i think the best bet is too have a cable not plastic coated and take it off when not needed, that is i think what i will be doing,
cheers kieran

[Kenny]

Did they not have something like this during the war to cut barage ballon cables, or was it to launch them Can't remember.

I find it a little strange all these attachments being added to Land Rovers in good old blighty where we don't exactly get the most extreme of conditions, makes me wonder if it is not part of the latest gizmo culture or keeping up with the neighbours.

Damian

[redneck]

Did they not have something like this during the war to cut barage ballon cables, or was it to launch them Can't remember.

I find it a little strange all these attachments being added to Land Rovers in good old blighty where we don't exactly get the most extreme of conditions, makes me wonder if it is not part of the latest gizmo culture or keeping up with the neighbours.

Damian

They can be extremely handy when the lanes are thick with bushes and branches  :shock:

[SimonHarwood]

Did they not have something like this during the war to cut barage ballon cables, or was it to launch them Can't remember.

I find it a little strange all these attachments being added to Land Rovers in good old blighty where we don't exactly get the most extreme of conditions, makes me wonder if it is not part of the latest gizmo culture or keeping up with the neighbours.

Damian

They can be extremely handy when the lanes are thick with bushes and branches  :shock:

That undergrowth isn't thick :lol:  I did one in Ireland where you could only see half that width. (By the time we got to that point it was too late to reverse out.) Unfortunately I didn't get a pic. When you scraped at the track surface you could see the tarmac where it had, once upon a time, been a maintained, surfaced, single track road.
I didn't have bush wires but fortunately there was nothing big enough to damage windscreens. I did, however, pick up lots of scratches in my paintwork.

[Rasbo]

Tree cables are ok, but can be a pain in the ar*e when trying to work on the vehicle unless you remove them every time. Also attaching to roof rack can be a bad idea especcially if you come across a large branch as it guides it up to the roof rack and then you get a nice dent in the corner of it.  Also big/alot of branches can put alot of strain on the front arches and depending on the condition they can be pulled all over the plave. And lastly reversing with them on through branches is a b**ch. They cause alot of unnessery drag.

Yes they look good and are fairly cheap and easy to make, but are they really gonna benefit you?  If it's that over grown you need them the lane probably hasn't been used for a reason and who knows what waits to slash your tyres?

[kizz81]

there good points, but if a branch is that big to dint it, then its too big to go under, plus without the cables you would loose your winscreen. there are plus sides as well as minus sides, the way i am attaching them it should be easy to remove by using a strong clip. like you say they only cost a tenner to fit so if i dont like them ill take them off.

cheers kieran