110 Queries !

[Mad Dog Dj]

Hi,
i have just bought a 1986 Millitary 110.
It's the radio box type.
2.5 N/A diesal lump ,5 speed box.
No mods ,as yet, apart from a set of Wolf Rimms,
running XZL tyres.
Currently showing 38000 original miles.

Need some info on how to sort out the following problems....

There is about 3 inches of play in the steering,when vehicle is stood still.

The clutch lever is very hard to press.

When engaging any gear it clunks quite heavy.

I am not running large tyre but the steering feels very heavy.

Is it possible to fit a power steering unit to this model.

Thanks .
Richard.

[Sharpshooter]

Hi,
i have just bought a 1986 Millitary 110.
It's the radio box type.
2.5 N/A diesal lump ,5 speed box.
No mods ,as yet, apart from a set of Wolf Rimms,
running XZL tyres.
Currently showing 38000 original miles.

Need some info on how to sort out the following problems....

There is about 3 inches of play in the steering,when vehicle is stood still.

The clutch lever is very hard to press.

When engaging any gear it clunks quite heavy.

I am not running large tyre but the steering feels very heavy.

Is it possible to fit a power steering unit to this model.

Thanks .
Richard.

Ok. The steering is adjustable. Assuming it is in the box, and not the ball joints. There is a nut on the top of the box with a stud in the middle. Slacken the nut, and wind the stud in. Do it in small amounts. You have to compromise slack in the steering for stiff steering. If you know what i mean. The more you wind it in. The less play you will have. But after a while, it will cause the steering to go stiff on the road. So hence do it in small amounts ata a time.

Yes you can fit power steering. I did it to mine. Youll need a pump, bracket to move the alternator up higher, to allow the pump to go where the alternator was. Steering box, resivior and hoses. And most hard to find,a twin v front crankshaft pulley.

The heavy clutch is probably due to it being on its way out. They arnt the lightest of things anyway. Not compared to a normal car. But youll get used to it.

Hope this helps. Wayne. :)

[Mad Dog Dj]

Thats great  thanks.
What would be the best donor for the parts to rig up the power steering,and also the twin v front crankshaft pulley.
Richard.

[Sharpshooter]

Thats great  thanks.
What would be the best donor for the parts to rig up the power steering,and also the twin v front crankshaft pulley.
Richard.

Im not sure of other fitting parts. I luckily got mine from a scrapper on ebay.

[Mad Dog Dj]

Ok so i have managed to sort the clunking and steering out ,also have all the power steering kit sorted.
Then i was driving home the other day and it died on me.
After lots of searching came to the conclusion for some unknown reason the head gasket had blown.

I have had it for about 6 weeks and just done 170 miles on the road in it.
Was told when i bought it it had only done 37k.
Been in touch with the seller but he didnt want to know.

While removing the head ,we noticed that  head bolts were loose,the gasket had a split in the centre.
The garage took the head off for presure testing and it came back fine and there were no cracks.
3 weeks later get a phone call from the garage,
car is running come and pick it up.
Pretty Straight forward.
Pick up landy Start her up engine is chuffing discover ,exhaust valve is stuck and is blowing back through num 2.
The bloke at the garage has told me just to drive it about and it will sort itself out.
He has no more time to work on it ????

So now im stuck as what to do next,
i have had to pay for this,and it was not cheap.
paid good money for the landy in the first place.
So selling it on cheap is not an option,
plus if i carry on with fixing it up at least ill know where i am with things.
For peace of mind is it worth buying a re con 2.5 n/a replacement as this is my cheapest option,or carry on fixing up the original lump.

When finished sorting out the running issues, next up is the suspension.
Looking to replace springs shocks and doing all the bushes.
Would like to lift it a bit but without having to replace other bits,castor arms etc.
I read somewhere about a 1.5 inch lift using om parts but cant find it now.
So any suggestions welcome.
And what is the best bush kit to use.

I will hopefuly be using the landy for trips abroad,where most of the driving will be on trails and  farm tracks.
Thanks.

[TDi90]

for trips abroad and stuff especially if you have a knackered engine i would do the simple 200tdi replacement.
buy a disco 200tdi (usually bout £400-600) and stick it in.
more reliable, faster, quieter etc... etc...
im sure someone will back me up on this!
R

[Mad Dog Dj]

for trips abroad and stuff especially if you have a knackered engine i would do the simple 200tdi replacement.
buy a disco 200tdi (usually bout £400-600) and stick it in.
more reliable, faster, quieter etc... etc...
im sure someone will back me up on this!
R

Thanks for the reply,
the only problem with this option is that i would have to pay someone to do the job as i do not have the tools and space to do it,
so far the cheapest quote i have had for the conversion is £1000,thats on top of the price of the motor.

[TBM]

welocme to the world of military land rovers. You'll get told by those that have never owned one, that they've been maintained to the highest standard. The harsh reality is they've usually been thrashed gutless by the drivers until they break, then parts are replaced. My 77K series 3 is now on second engine and gearbox. Engine died around 48k, gearbox had no synchromesh and I've just replaced it.

As you've said, if you slowly go on fixing bits, eventually it will become a reliable vehicle.

It will be reasonably easy to work on, even with a small amount of skill. Use forums to gain advice, and work on first principles - they are usually very basic and straightforward.

However, any engine is an improvement on a 2.5NA - perhaps the most gutless thing I've ever had the misfortune to encounter!

[tomarse]

However, any engine is an improvement on a 2.5NA - perhaps the most gutless thing I've ever had the misfortune to encounter!

You obviously have never had a 2.25!. 2.5 is like a rocket compared to the 2.25 ;)

[TBM]

However, any engine is an improvement on a 2.5NA - perhaps the most gutless thing I've ever had the misfortune to encounter!

You obviously have never had a 2.25!. 2.5 is like a rocket compared to the 2.25 ;)

No, I've never had the pleasure(?) of a 2.25 diesel! I can only imagine!

[Mad Dog Dj]

Well iv finaly sorted the motor,stripped the 2.5 put it back together with a mate and now it running better than ever.
On to the suspension now.
Looking to get it sitting level,would like a little lift from the original height,but not to the extent that i will need to spend a fortune ironing out all the issues that come with +2 lifts and above.
Read through many forums about this and just getting more confused by the contradicting and product biased opinions.
So if anyone can give me some good advice it will be much appretiated.
I wont be doing serious comps in the 110,but i  am off road a lot.
Looking for a strong reliable set up ,4 springs 4 shocks and bush kit.
Did read a post somewhere about using Landy Hd springs all round with a good shock,would this achieve what im looking for.
Thanks.

[Sharpshooter]

Too be honest you dont want it sitting level. As soon as you start putting people and kit in the back, its going to go down. The 110 always seems to sit funny, but this is due to the larger payload. A csw should sit more level, as you have the extra weight of the seats and panels.

I had +2" britpart heavy duty springs, and procomp es9000 +2" shocks. But with home made relocation cones and rear seat mounts. Also had -2" rear shock mounts. Very nice setup, and i never managed to get the wheels of the ground.  :D

[Mad Dog Dj]

Thanks for the reply .
I was looking at the Britpart kits.
Did you have to change anything else,
break lines,caster arms etc or did it work without issues.
Most of the bushes are perished and was wondering what kit to fit .
Was thinking of Deflex .

[Sharpshooter]

I did fit a +4" rear brake hose. But the fronts were more than long enough. Front props last about 6000mls, but you could get a wider angled one.I didnt bother with cranked or castor arms. But if your doing lots of miles, i think they are worth thinking about. I had genuine ploybushes all round. I have heard thay Deflex are not as good as the original bushes. If your going poly, buy genuine polybushes. They cost more, but are 10 times better.

[Mad Dog Dj]

Thanks for the info.

[Range Rover Blues]

I've fitted Deflex bushes to Blue and they have been fine, though the radius arm bushes stop it rolling/articulating which is better on road than off.  The panhard rod bushes last really well and once in they can be swapped really easily, but I found they showed no signs of wear sfter 2 years.

What does kill off any polybush is constant dunking in gritty water or mud, unlike a bonded rubber bush polybushes move around the inner spacer and can wear.


As for lifting, well a 2 inch lift reduces castor by 3 degrees, which is the nominal castor angle on RRC and Disco, I think also on Defender.  A lift of about 1 inch shouldn't cause too many problems but 2 inches or above, well you have to see as different cars and different drivers.........

I like ProComp shocks except that they rust on the upper portion of the piston, I understand Terrfirma cost about the same so I'll try those at somepoint, or DeCarbon are good fo t he same sort of money.

DON'T fit spacers to tired old springs, use them with new or HD springs if at all.