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« on: July 05, 2007, 10:59:42 »
Friends got a 07 Toyota Auirs diesel
He has put 13 lires of petrol in the tank then filled it to the top with Diesel
45 Litres in total ( petrol & Diesel)
It ran ok but last night would not start, sensor for water in the diesel lit up, gave it a shove down the road, sensor went out started fine.
Will it be ok or should he drain it?
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 11:27:24 »
I would drain it because Petrol thiner than diesel and it could over heat the piston melt the end...have seen it done


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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 11:52:54 »
Working in a Toyota main dealer, Id say he's stuffed.

It will almost certainly have killed the injectors, maybe the injector pump.
They are replaced in the dealership with refurbed units, and so ARE inspected for incorrect fuel etc........

Tisnt good news
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 11:54:53 »
I'd run it a bit say to work and back (assuming it's a short hop!) then fill with diesel and so on until you've done around ten fills.

Unless he/she drains the lot then by syphoning out fuel they will never know which bit they have syphoned out.

It's not unusual to mix a small amount of petrol with diesel and used to be done alot in days gone by in the winter to stop diesel waxing in cold temperatures. Diesel has come on a long way since those days.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 12:04:47 »
My mum quarter filled her TD5 defender up with petrol, she filled the rest up with diesel and kept topping it up as soon as it went down a bit, it just drank it no probs! Lol!

To be on the safe side tho, i would say drain as much as poss and fill it to the brim with diesel! It'll drink any leftovers!  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 12:39:24 »
Get ready for low speed vibration and misfire :wink:
Then usually lack of power midrange...
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 17:26:11 »
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Friends got a 07 Toyota Auirs diesel


If I had an 07 reg vehicle I would have had it drained there and then and not even started the engine. Alot of money to possibly kill.

Prob cheaper to get the tank drained in the first place than new piston rings.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 17:44:29 »
Think that Barmie Brumie runs his regularly on a petrol/ diesel/ cooking oil mix, doesn't seem to do his any harm but there again its a Landrover. No doubt he'll be along soon to comment.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 17:58:46 »
I tell ya, dont run a Toyota D4D engine with ANY petrol in it. Get it recovered. It WILL cause damage.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 19:06:36 »
had a colleague at work did the same to an ldv van. i just filled it with diesel and let it tickover all day and it was fine. however i was hoping it would kill the damn thing so we could get a sprinter!!! not sure id do it on a modern engine that i cared about- too many sensors to get screwed up!
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 21:32:17 »
SWMBO's dad did that to my Disco. His missus was out in his, and he had to pick up a couple of bales of hay for the horses, so I lent him mine to tow the trailer with. He pulled into the garage with the intention of filling the tank for me (nice of him) but realised at about 38 litres that he had the unleaded pump in his hand.

So we ended up spending an hour or so out in the rain pumping it out by hand. Left a bit of the unleaded in but just kept topping it up with diesel. Suffered a bit when it was pulling neat unleaded through, but after that it was fine. But, as said, that's with a Land Rover engine, an older 300 tdi at that, no fancy bits to get all upset about the strange fuel.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 22:40:39 »
Do as rollazuki says, an hdi diesel will destroy its self on petrol, the tollerances are far to high, and as for saying a tdi runs on it, thats ok for a landrover, but hdi injection pressures can reach 12000 bar, a lot more that any old tdi, so dealer all the way 8)
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 23:21:14 »
Quote from: "andygod"
Think that Barmie Brumie runs his regularly on a petrol/ diesel/ cooking oil mix, doesn't seem to do his any harm but there again its a Landrover. No doubt he'll be along soon to comment.



Yes but mine is a landrover  :D  Lot's of modern cars just wont tolerate it
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2007, 00:10:00 »
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Yes but mine is a landrover  Lot's of modern cars just wont tolerate it


If thats called progress you can keep it, I'd rather have the older Landrover engine.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 02:17:04 »
If I had done that to my 07 Astra I would have had it down the dealers red face and all  :oops:
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