Traffic Police Pursuit

[Boggert]

Including arms & legs, instead of the ASP??

You could try that but its real messy! :lol:

The day I leave the Job, I'll bang some of my home made vids (Camera phone) on you tube. There are some great blue light runs as well as a dog incident. All filmed by the passenger not the driver of course!

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

As an aside, I find it quite interesting reading some of the comments made by viewers of these various links.
I get the distinct impression that some are not great fans of the Police. One thing I've noticed over the years is that those who claim to 'Hate Da Ol Bil', to use the current vernacular (or rather lack of it) are usually those who shout for 'Da Pigs', when 'Dey az been beaten up by loads of uvva geezers, like and I is wantin' to press charges, like'.
What a bunch of useless, space wasting, oxygen thieveing scumbags.

[Highlander1]

Is pr 24 not to do with round the clock public relations :?

[Boggert]

What bugs me is when the get into a row with each other, kick seven bells of the brown stuff out of each other, then call for "da pigs" when we arrive the make up and turn on us... :roll:

[Bush Tucker Man]

The day I leave the Job, I'll bang some of my home made vids (Camera phone) on you tube. There are some great blue light runs as well as a dog incident.!

Was the Dog 'playing' with someone who wouldn't lie down as it expected him to???

What bugs me is when the get into a row with each other, kick seven bells of the brown stuff out of each other, then call for "da pigs" when we arrive the make up and turn on us...

Then the scum-bags get brought to places like ours :roll:

The A&E dilemma is;
1. Do we treat them quickly so your collegues (in our area) can lock them up for the night??, & get them away from our real patients!
2. Do we make them wait (in pain, of course) until they're sober enough to be nice to the staff treating them???
(whilst keeping the Officers supplied with Tea & Biscuits)

A. Obviously if they're in real pain due to an injury they'll be seen & subsequently discharged back into 'custody'





One of my abiding memories is of being told by a (now retired) Nurse about an abusive, drunken, totally obnoxious individual who was swearing at her (& the Doctor), plus spitting blood at them :twisted:

Now in my eyes, he'd have simply got dragged outside by the Bobby until he'd sobered up enough to behave (be he dragged by the hair or feet, it'd be no difference to me)

Said Officer apologised to Nurse & tried to make drunk behave.

Said Nurse asked drunk to stop & not to do it again...

Said drunk did...... & caught Nurse with blood streaked saliva



Nurse slapped drunk across face so hard, his head bounced off the trolley rails :lol:

Drunk tried to complain to Officer about a supposed assault

Officer said he was looking the other way & saw nothing

[att]

The Police should be armed, I have spent  a fair amount of time with the POlice in the USA and the way they do things is the way forward, however they can keep their racism, it was embarrassing at times.
We need to arm all of our police, it would stop all the petty crap that goes on...The serious stuff usually entails arms of some sort anyway, seems to be a win win situation for the public.
And those who say the villains will arm themselves etc....I feel you may find you are a tad late with that argument, look at the statistics with the frquency of armed police action in the last ten years..

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

The Police should be armed, I have spent  a fair amount of time with the POlice in the USA and the way they do things is the way forward, however they can keep their racism, it was embarrassing at times.
We need to arm all of our police, it would stop all the petty crap that goes on...The serious stuff usually entails arms of some sort anyway, seems to be a win win situation for the public.
And those who say the villains will arm themselves etc....I feel you may find you are a tad late with that argument, look at the statistics with the frquency of armed police action in the last ten years..

a very emotive subject and one that I'm sure has been covered before.
I have never carried a gun on duty, and would never want to. Saying that, I have been faced with firearms and if I had of been armed, then I would have been more than justified in the use of it.
It is the act of taking a life and the aftermath of that action. I will make the assumption that every police officer who has pulled a trigger can justify their actions in their own minds. However the Police hierarchy and Judicial system to do not see it like that.
That is the bit that bothers me most.
More use should be made of other 'less lethal' options (another PC phrase. Don't you just love it? :roll: ) like Taser, Baton rounds, and chemical incapacitants Pepperball.
Unfortunately, the hierarchy in the UK Police seem too scared to use this sort of method as "Its just not the British way of doing things".

[Boggert]

The Police should be armed, I have spent  a fair amount of time with the POlice in the USA and the way they do things is the way forward, however they can keep their racism, it was embarrassing at times.
We need to arm all of our police, it would stop all the petty crap that goes on...The serious stuff usually entails arms of some sort anyway, seems to be a win win situation for the public.
And those who say the villains will arm themselves etc....I feel you may find you are a tad late with that argument, look at the statistics with the frquency of armed police action in the last ten years..

a very emotive subject and one that I'm sure has been covered before.
I have never carried a gun on duty, and would never want to. Saying that, I have been faced with firearms and if I had of been armed, then I would have been more than justified in the use of it.
It is the act of taking a life and the aftermath of that action. I will make the assumption that every police officer who has pulled a trigger can justify their actions in their own minds. However the Police hierarchy and Judicial system to do not see it like that.
That is the bit that bothers me most.
More use should be made of other 'less lethal' options (another PC phrase. Don't you just love it? :roll: ) like Taser, Baton rounds, and chemical incapacitants Pepperball.
Unfortunately, the hierarchy in the UK Police seem too scared to use this sort of method as "Its just not the British way of doing things".

Couldn't agree more! If they said... ok chaps, its a choice a 9mm pistol or a Taser... I would take the taser any day.

As soon as you pull the trigger of a gun the Police officer is being investigated and is suspended!

[Sider]

I spent 5 years of my life with a side weapon at all times, and I perfectly understand the point of view of officers in the UK.

Exactly what crap is carrying weapons going to erradicate?? Oh yeah, I know, let's threaten the 15 year old thugs vandalizing the corner shop. Anybody see the flaw in the theory??

As far as I know, proportionality comes into the equation somewhere when it comes to the PC explaining the judge why he did what he did. Ergo, a firearm would be next to useless to your average bobby. All it would be is another opportunity for an accident, and that would only satisfy the red-tape brigade (another 275 yards of useless paperwork, explaining why PC Smith allowed 5 thugs to beat him to pulp and steal his/her weapon, which will no doubt be used to mug old ladies. How careless and unproffesional of PC Smith. BTW, has he/she regained consciousness yet, so we can discipline him/her???).

In all honesty, leave weapons to those with both the training and the vocation to carry them. Weapons do not prevent crime, and they can create a lot of headaches.