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Allisport full width intercooler question.
« on: July 21, 2007, 22:21:34 »
Well. I went to billing today. I treated the disco to an Allisport Full width intercooler. Got home, and had it in within the hour.

Now, it comes with basic instructions, but still smokes a little when you accelerate. Is this normal, and does anyone have acomprehensive guide to setting them up?

But already more power Ug Ug Ug. :)

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2007, 13:58:48 »
Got to say I don't know.  Julie's TDi had already been tweaked before we got it but I'm hoping the intercooler will be finished next week, then they'll have a look at the pump etc.  I don't think it'll tweak any more but I'm hoping it will smoke less.  Black or dark grey smoke is unburned fuel, not good for economy.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2007, 21:57:27 »
Well. I bought an Allisport full width intercooler at billing yesterday. I fitted it in haste last night and was well pleased. I adjusted the boost preasure and the diaphragm, as per their instructions. I droveit this morning, and WOW.

But tonight, i have cleaned and waxed her, so i though i would see if i could improve it.

I actually backed the boost off a very small amount, and it hasimproved it.

So now i have a disco pulls like a train,and looks the danglies.

Smiles all round.

And yes, it was worth the money.

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 12:19:27 »
you do not have to back the boost off atall! the smoke is a result of all the crap in your engine being dislodged by the new power, it is normal.
my old chap is running about 22psi of boost in his td5 but he had the full tune aswell.

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2007, 18:16:43 »
As it happends, i didnt back it off to change the smoke. I backed it off to make the turbo spin up sooner. :)

But i know what you mean.

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 19:19:14 »
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you do not have to back the boost off atall! the smoke is a result of all the crap in your engine being dislodged by the new power, it is normal.


That is very reasuring, had a brunel replacement intercooler fitted on sunday at billing and is smoking a lot at the moment!  How long does it usually last?

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2007, 19:44:22 »
it doesnt, if he has turned the smoke screw in...which you should do to benifit from the increased air into the engine...it should emit a light puff of smoke and leave a light haze in your rear view mirror when taking off using WOT
mine emits a hell of a lot more as i want the extra power, it doesnt do the road miles so i aint fussed about smoke, means i have more grunt offroad  :twisted:
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 19:47:18 »
he didnt touch the smoke screw or the diapghram (sp?!) just the full power screw on the back, as he thought that had not been touched as the seal was still there...

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 22:16:19 »
I havnt adjusted the fuel screw either. Just the diaphram, which Allisport recommends. I have also shortened the actuator arm on the turbo by about 6 turns.

I get a very small puff of smoke when i bot it. But thats all. :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 22:09:08 »
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he didnt touch the smoke screw or the diapghram (sp?!) just the full power screw on the back, as he thought that had not been touched as the seal was still there...


that is the smoke screw  :wink:

its sealed with a plastic cap and then a little metal shroud tack welded onto the thread
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 22:11:01 »
Quote from: "Sharpshooter"
I havnt adjusted the fuel screw either. Just the diaphram, which Allisport recommends. I have also shortened the actuator arm on the turbo by about 6 turns.

I get a very small puff of smoke when i bot it. But thats all. :)


you can still get loads more power...that'll be pretty much gutless against mine or others to be fair  :wink:
your not getting full benifit of the cooler
turn the smoke screw in 1 turn and itll go like stink then
mines in 1 3/4 a turn  :twisted:
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 22:33:52 »
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Quote from: "Sharpshooter"
I havnt adjusted the fuel screw either. Just the diaphram, which Allisport recommends. I have also shortened the actuator arm on the turbo by about 6 turns.

I get a very small puff of smoke when i bot it. But thats all. :)


you can still get loads more power...that'll be pretty much gutless against mine or others to be fair  :wink:
your not getting full benifit of the cooler
turn the smoke screw in 1 turn and itll go like stink then
mines in 1 3/4 a turn  :twisted:
dan


Is this the screw at the rear of the pump?

How will it affect the economy?

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2007, 22:44:08 »
Quote from: "Sharpshooter"
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
Quote from: "Sharpshooter"
I havnt adjusted the fuel screw either. Just the diaphram, which Allisport recommends. I have also shortened the actuator arm on the turbo by about 6 turns.

I get a very small puff of smoke when i bot it. But thats all. :)


you can still get loads more power...that'll be pretty much gutless against mine or others to be fair  :wink:
your not getting full benifit of the cooler
turn the smoke screw in 1 turn and itll go like stink then
mines in 1 3/4 a turn  :twisted:
dan


Is this the screw at the rear of the pump?

How will it affect the economy?


yes thats the one, by the shut off solenoid

economy...on a run mines better on fuel than my mates std 90
and im on 35inch simex, cages ect ect

you doing the same given speed, just is your doing that speed at a different throttle position ( i.e less)

but dont get me wrong mines opend right up for more guts offroad, and i can drain a tank quicker than a v8 if i wanted  :twisted:  :twisted:

but i cant complain on economy, i find it better tootling around

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2007, 10:56:11 »
is there a guide anywhere for turning up boost and fueling on a 300tdi?

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2007, 21:20:53 »
if running a std intercooler, leave the boost as it is as its already running 1bar

just turn the diaphram 90 degrees clockwise for more fuel for more go  :lol:

do a search as its come up many of times before on how to do it so im not going to repeat myself another time  :evil:   :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 10:11:01 »
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
if running a std intercooler, leave the boost as it is as its already running 1bar

just turn the diaphram 90 degrees clockwise for more fuel for more go  :lol:

do a search as its come up many of times before on how to do it so im not going to repeat myself another time  :evil:   :lol:
dan


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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 19:00:59 »
just wind it in and see what happens!
it should go like excretion of a shovel, but dont go to mad as i blew mine up after about month of gunning around in my new racing car disco!
its amazing just how quick you can get a disco to go.

 






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