AuthorTopic: Clutch problems?  (Read 2116 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline winx

  • Posts: 123
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« on: August 19, 2007, 20:16:49 »
About 3 miles from home my 200tdi clutch pedal started to go to the floor with a load of dead travel, nursed it homewith no gear changes but was really difficult to get reverse to park up.

Clutch fluid reservior is empty and can't see a split pipe.  Is this likely to be the slave cylinder? I take it they are fairly easy to change on a driveway?

Offline Disco-Ron

  • Posts: 1048
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 20:27:38 »
Easy enough to change cos you can just slide underneath..... is there any dampness anywhere there shouldn't be???
gone from 200tdi.... to 300tdi... still with loads done to it, in fact, even more than the last truck...LOL!!!

Offline dave_2A_2.25Turbo

  • Posts: 811
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 20:31:49 »
It could also be the pipe from the damper to the slave - mine fractured inside the lower union.  A very nice local chap re-flared it for me FOC (my kit was 150 miles away) and it;s been fine since
Dave
1963 S2A
1992 Disco 200TDi
Sankey Widetrack

Offline winx

  • Posts: 123
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 20:49:43 »
cheers for that guys, I will have a look after work tomorrow as it is dark now.  Will let you know how it goes!

ben_haynes

  • Guest
Clutch problems?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 20:50:09 »
yes it is very likely to be the slave has pushed through the clutch fork

the slave cylinder is very easy to remove on the drive look between the Engine and Gearbox underneath by the exhaust, it is located there and it is held in by two 1/2 inch (13mm) nuts, take it out and check the pin is still inside the slave cylinder if it is not there then it is a gearbox out job

Offline barny

  • Posts: 220
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 20:53:57 »
mines been doing this recently, i've now got bleeding the clutch down to a fine art. I cant see any dampness anywhere - well ok it looks like an oil tankers had a crash down there but not clutch related  :lol:

Offline chris9119

  • Posts: 1400
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • The New Big Boy, Gert...
    • Lordswood, Kent
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 21:50:27 »
Quote from: "ben_haynes"
the slave cylinder is very easy to remove on the drive look between the Engine and Gearbox underneath by the exhaust, it is located there and it is held in by two 1/2 inch (13mm) nuts, take it out and check the pin is still inside the slave cylinder if it is not there then it is a gearbox out job


Ummmm, 200tdi....., slave cylinder is on the off-side and should be 10mm bolts.....

There are a number of potential problems......, slave seals have gone, slave cylinder has pushed seating through, clutch fork arm seat has worn, clutch fork arm swivel ball has pushed through fork...., take care when you remove the slave cylinder...., not many people fit the retaining clip to the slave rod and as stated, could fall into the bell housing.....

Good luck...., I've just been through it all.......
Chris
Si hoc adfixum in obice legere potes, et liberaliter educatus et nimis propinquus ades

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/chris9119/gallery

Mud-Clubbers do it on channel 30






ben_haynes

  • Guest
Clutch problems?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 21:57:41 »
Quote from: "chris9119"
Quote from: "ben_haynes"
the slave cylinder is very easy to remove on the drive look between the Engine and Gearbox underneath by the exhaust, it is located there and it is held in by two 1/2 inch (13mm) nuts, take it out and check the pin is still inside the slave cylinder if it is not there then it is a gearbox out job


Ummmm, 200tdi....., slave cylinder is on the near-side and should be 10mm bolts.....

There are a number of potential problems......, slave seals have gone, slave cylinder has pushed seating through, clutch fork arm seat has worn, clutch fork arm swivel ball has pushed through fork...., take care when you remove the slave cylinder...., not many people fit the retaining clip to the slave rod and as stated, could fall into the bell housing.....

Good luck...., I've just been through it all.......


no mine was 13 mm nuts maybe a bodge by the previous owner, and the 300's are too

Offline Les Henson

  • Posts: 369
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Is it supposed to do that?
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 00:11:46 »
300TDi Disco clutch slave is on drivers side and should be retained by 2 x 10mm head bolts that also secure the damper. Replacing the bolts with studs and nuts is ok, but I don't know why someone would want to do it. The last 300TDi slave that I did rounded one of the bolts really easily and I had to knock a 3/8" socket on it to get it undone. If your clutch fork has punched thought, then there's just enough room on the 200TDi for the piston to come out of the slave far enough for the fluid to be dumped inside the bell housing. Clamp the lower flexi pipe and press the clutch pedal - if it's solid, then the slave or fork is the problem.


Les.

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 16:24:38 »
Also lift the carpet and check the master cylinder hasn't leaked as they tend to leak inside the car.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline winx

  • Posts: 123
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Clutch problems?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 20:06:48 »
Thanks for all your help guys couldn't see any leaks to speak of, so took the slave off.

I tried to take care not to have the rod come out at the same time but it just fell out :evil:
When I get a new slave can I just push it back in?  In a month I was going to start looking for a recon box so will have it all off then anyway, not overly bothered if the clip does not go back in, is this a problem?

Pics:


 






SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal