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« on: August 22, 2007, 22:54:37 »
Ok. So i havesold my 110. And now im going to mod the Disco.

Im thinking of the bilstein gas lift kit from mm4x4 and some 265 75 16 insa turbo dakars.

What are peolples views on this setup. Cheers Wayne. :)

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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2007, 13:24:05 »
Billies are good dampers, that's about all I have to say unless you want to open a can marked 'worms' and mention castor correction.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2007, 16:13:33 »
Well, im thinking by the time i fit the lift. Then replace the huskey superwinch and bumper. I will lose abit anyway. So im not going to worry about castor correction. :)

But thanks about the billies. Better than procomp would you say?

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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 17:12:10 »
The one question unanswered by MM4x4 website is what length/travel the bilstine dampers are, given its just a spring and damper kit I suspect the are standard length.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2007, 22:29:29 »
I have been pleased with my insa turbo dakars seem to grip ok in the soft stuff and are ok for road use (bit crap in the wet though)
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 17:21:27 »
If i fitted a 1.5 inch kit, would i be able to keep my original de-carbon dampers. Also would i still be able to fit 265 75 16 insa dakars. Or would it be too tight? :) Cheers.

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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 23:52:28 »
If the DeCarbons wer standard length then they may limit travel once you have lifted the car.  I like to go for a longer damper stretch than lift is possible, so I'd go for plus 2".  These will fit a standard car and not bottom out, I check very carefully before I fitted plus 2" ProComp to my LSE with air suspension.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 10:21:27 »
So, if i go for a britpart super gas setup. Will i need to modify the castor angle, or will i get away with it? Also, will 265 75 16 insa dakars fit without any cutting? :) Cheers.

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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 15:01:46 »
It's a case of suck it and see.  If you really hate the way it drives once it's lifted then you need to start saving for the rest of the bits.  If you get on with it ok then you don't.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2007, 15:06:13 »
dont forget that if you do fit standard length dampers with a +2" lift, you can just fit -2" shock mounts and turrets ;)

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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2007, 15:10:53 »
True, as the standard shock did not compress all the way down on a standard car, but turrets cost about the same as shocks don't they? and with longer shocks you get much better droop.  Plus with a lift you don;t want the original shocks on there unless they are already uprated.

I'm not a big fan of spacers or shock lowering, you might have noticed.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2007, 20:15:25 »
So im going for a 2" lift from Paddocks. +2" Springs and shocks. The same as i had on my 110.

All i need to know now is, will i need to do anything else to fit 265 75 16 insa dakars. Ie cutting the arches? Cheers Wayne.

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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2007, 20:45:00 »
I had to cut the arches for 235/85/16s



and they hit the top under the arch
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2007, 21:16:36 »
Is there much in it between a 256 75 16 and a 235 85 16 ?

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2007, 22:55:41 »
Yeah 265 are 30mm wider (15mm further towards/further wing) than 235 but they work out at about the same diameter.

Bear in mind that if they are retreads then they tend to come slightly over sized compared to new tyres.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2007, 22:59:52 »
Yeah thanks. If thats the only trimming needed, its not so bad. :)

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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2007, 23:11:41 »
Oh just remembered its also 15mm towards the radius arms which obviously reduces turning circle unless wheel offset is changed.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 00:22:44 »
you will have to cut the rear of the rear wheel arch (as pic^) front bumper end cap and if it's a five door there is a lip at the top of the rear arch that they catch on, and depending on what offset you may have to flatten the rear of the front arch.

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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 11:57:28 »
Another option is to unbolt the lower wing securing bolt and extend the bracket it's attached to, this bring the bottom of the wing out of harm's way and stops muck going up the side windows quite so much.  You can so this at both ends.
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 18:10:14 »
^^ no theres an idea!

....the brakets tend to disintegrate in time anyway.

also stock up on front UJ`s... :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 18:13:43 »
Mine has had lovely stainless ones made up by the previous owner. A welder/fabricator.

What is this Camel cut you speak off.?  :)

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 18:43:05 »
camel cut is the same as a rear of rear wheel arch as per pic .

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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2007, 21:24:40 »
Here we go. New tyres fitted.





I think ill just go with a set of +1" springs. Im sure the springs on it are tired. We'll see how it goes from there.

 






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