Petrol e-mail

[Boggert]

Anyone else got this...???

PLEASE READ ALL
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>See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it.
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>We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with
>paying £1 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
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>This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day
>campaign that was going around last April or May!
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>The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
>continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol.
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>It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,
>whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
>Please read it and join in!
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>Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
>think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action
>to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers.
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>With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take
>action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is
>if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can
>do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
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>Here's the idea: For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from
>the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
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>If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their
>prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to
>follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of
>Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
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>Now, don't whimp out on me at this point... keep reading! and I'll explain
>how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
>I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at
>least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
>more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the
>sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
>consumers!
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>If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each,
>then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level
>further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not
>buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take?
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>If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of
>receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
>next 8days!!!




Is the problem with the Tax on petrol not the price of petrol its self ???
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[strapping young lad]

isnt that email from petrolprices.com?

if not im sure ive received similar from someone i hadnt spoken to in 5 years which made me be a bit sceptical about the email

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

if u think  a quid is  bad god job u dont live in worcestershire its 105p for unleaded and 109p for diesel ouch.........

[V8MoneyPit]

Most petrol stations are not 'owned' by the petrol company, but by small businesses who buy a franchise. The profit on fuel for the franchise owner is only a few pence per litre. Not buying the fuel from them will not make them lower prices, they can't afford to. This is why most stations have a big shop. That's where they make their profit, not from fuel.

The fuel companies then take something like 20% of the price in profit (obviously varies considerably between companies). The rest is tax as you rightly suggest.

[discoverytdi]

Erm veg oil. Bio diesel. lpg anyone

[Evilgoat]

Saw this yonks ago before the petrol protests.

Its another viral email and is probobly on Snopes.

[V8MoneyPit]

Erm veg oil. Bio diesel. lpg anyone

I'd buy bio diesel if I could... despite having the largest producer in the UK just down the road, there doesn't appear to be any retail outlets in the whole of Norfolk  :(

[narked]

Agreed with the comment regarding the franchised garages. The garage in our village is BP, but under a franchise. It's not going to be BP who'd feel the squeeze from refusing to buy BP fuel, it'll be the garage owner who has already paid for the several thousand gallons sat in the tanks underneath the forecourt, at the price BP were charging at the time of order.

And for me it's a matter of convenience. I either use the garage in the village, or I drive another 12 miles into town to fill up.

[V8MoneyPit]

It's not going to be BP who'd feel the squeeze from refusing to buy BP fuel, it'll be the garage owner who has already paid for the several thousand gallons sat in the tanks underneath the forecourt, at the price BP were charging at the time of order.

I know someone who used to run a village petrol station.... he bought his personal use fuel from the nearest supermarket. It was cheaper than fuel he bought wholesale for his garage  :roll:

Also used to know someone who ran 3 Esso outlets. One was an actual Esso forecourt. The other 2 were franchises. He always used to say he'd be better off as a shopkeeper and ditch the forecourts.

[edy]

apparently the owners only make (on roughly) 4p per liter, the rest is to the oil companies, tax ect...

im shure there will be bio diesel places popping up all over the place soon, especially as its reached £1 a liter now, good thing about bio diesel is you can also make it yourself (need to get it exact on common rail diesels because of the psi) workes out at about 9p per liter if you do, plus goverment at the moment lets you make quite a bit of it tax free a year.

another thing there starting to refine (instead of LPG which seams the only way) is a bio thing for petrols, there is just a few complications with how much plants used ect...

[Evilgoat]

Tesco/Esso alliance sites make NO money on the fuel. Hence the no clubcard points.

[thermidorthelobster]

As I've said TIME and TIME AGAIN...   :twisted:

It's not the petrol companies we have to thank for the prices.  It's the government, who charge such high taxes on fuel.  This idea is a bit like holding the postman hostage because you don't like the price of stamps.  Totally pointless and whoever's put it together has not thought it through in the slightest.

Can you tell I've had a bad day?

[datalas]

Considering that there are really only a handful of fuel suppliers anyhow then they're not exactly going to be upset if we avoid buying from one of their resellers in favour of buying err... from another of their resellers...

That's like saying punish Microsoft by buying your copy of windows from PC-World rather than Comet [1],  I hardly think they care..

Anyhow, this matter has been discussed to death, the only real alternative is we start petitioning for itemised billing on our taxes...  It'd be fun to see just how much of our 50p per litre road tax goes on anything to do with the roads or environment[2].



[1] note, I was going to say currys, but that's owned by DSG as is PC World, I wasn't sure whether that would detract from the point I was trying to make or reinforce it...  either way I got confused and had to have a little sit down.

[2]   Then again, we'd discover that suddenly an extra 30p went on the stuff and that'd be down for producing the itemised bill, I wonder if the words "repressing freedom and thinking up good ways of spying on you" would enter into it anywhere [3]

[3] Hmm, perhaps that sit down wasn't quite long enough.

[V8MoneyPit]

another thing there starting to refine (instead of LPG which seams the only way) is a bio thing for petrols, there is just a few complications with how much plants used ect...

bio-ethanol.

[edy]

thats the stuff, couldnt remember the name, quickly had a read about in on wikipedia

[narked]

Mate of mine buys his wholesale now, as he's running two wagons, a DAF CF 6 wheel tipper, and a Scania 6 wheel tipper with trailer. Cost him a few quid to install a tank and the related bits and bobs, but he reckoned he'd got that initial cost back within 3 months. Saving somewhere in the region of 9p per litre over forecourt prices.

I'd buy my fuel off him, but unfortunately he gets through it quicker than he can get the tank refilled, and that's without using it to fill up his personal vehicles, just the lorries.

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

it bad really when were paying 4.75 a gallon compare to the americans at 2.50 per gallon.

ive got lpg myself but u still have to give a dash of unleaded to make it start with injections system compared to carbs.
 
that and filling station open in the middle of nowhere.

oh and didnt we strike once when it was 90 per little . what happen  r we going to be take us for muggs now.

[Evilgoat]

it bad really when were paying 4.75 a gallon compare to the americans at 2.50 per gallon.

ive got lpg myself but u still have to give a dash of unleaded to make it start with injections system compared to carbs.
 
that and filling station open in the middle of nowhere.

oh and didnt we strike once when it was 90 per little . what happen  r we going to be take us for muggs now.

We cant do that again.

After all the FUD over the last blockade Mr B Liar snuck through legislation meaning that the army would be deplyed to keep the refineries clear. No one is going to risk that, even the truckers who now seem to accept they are just going to get screwed regardless. It was actually the truckers that were responsible, the public only joined in after. But thats what you get for being a nation of sheep.

[Bunnie]

one of our customers used to run BP franchies and the price he charged is the price it cost him to get it in.. if he started selling it @ more than no one would bother stopping there.. it wasnt one of these 'we are the last station for 10 miles... your not gonna make it so we'll charge what we like'

the only way he made any money was with the shop.

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

what happen to r vote system i think its a kick into touch. and find a right man that gives us sum freedom in this country to lead. has anyone on here really think  labour has been good to them.

[thermidorthelobster]

has anyone on here really think  labour has been good to them.

Let's see.

Education, education, education:  nope.  Schools are funded the same as they were 10 years ago, without any adjustment for inflation, so in real terms that's a lot less money then.  And now students have to pay for the privilege of going to university, so it's often only those who ARE privileged who do.  And in what way is this not a very right-wing idea exactly?

War:  well, we got one, because we decided to invade another country, on the basis of a made-up justification of a threat which never actually existed.  We turned an evil dictatorship which wasn't a direct threat to us, into an evil anarchy which is a hotbed of terrorists.  And we annoyed most of the world in the process.  Way to go, Tony, what a really spectacularly good bit of politics that was.

Prisons:  all of a sudden the government's surprised because they're running out of prison space.  And in what was is that not an entirely predictable occurrence that could and should have been dealt with as a matter of routine, months or years before it came to a head?

And don't even get me STARTED on spending a billion pounds on the Millennium Dome.

I will never really understand how a government can be - well - not so much incompetent, as dangerously negligent - and in the end the PM leaves of his own accord.  If it was up to me, he'd be in prison, not in retirement.  Says a lot about the opposition really.

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

on the goverment website only 26 people want an electron now................
think it might be a bit of a false statement.

yes r country has global warming but britain on its own aint aint really going to make a real big difference...

mud clubbers running the country now we might be getting somewhere.