CV's on a 1990 200tdi disco

[discorich]

i have a 200tdi disco no ABS from 1990. i am running the 2 part CV's (female to female) i was wondering how decent (as in strong) these are and if they are rubbish how easy is it to upgrade then without going mad on prices and buying the kits from Ashcroft or Kam. any advice would be great cheers.

[extreme90]

there not very strong at all
but very easy to change

you cannot buy a upgrade for this type of cv joint as far as i no, ashcroft certainly dont do them, nor do kam from what ive found in the past

best upgrade you can do is to get hold of a early 90 axle and fit that  

strongest stock cv joints that solihul produced
there the AEU2522's for reference  

u used to run them on my 90 for ages and only bust 1 on road deing a idiot  :lol:  :lol:

but due to having a front locker, i didnt fancy forgetting the front locker being in and breaking one  :roll:
so now have ashcroft cv's with a heafty price tag  
dan

[discorich]

would the brake calipers from the disco fit? as i run 5 line brakes and 90's were only 3 line i believe.

[extreme90]

put a t piece in, like on the rear axle, that what most people do

[Range Rover Blues]

I've tried the 200TDi defender axles and the problem is the alloys wouldn't fit the hubs and the CVs were too long.

Are the later Disco ABS type CVs any good?  (also found in RRC) as these are a straightforeward swap.

If anyone wants the internals for the Defender axle I might be able to find all the parts I had, inc new bearings etc and they can be built up onto the existing axle/swivles.

[extreme90]

no, there smaller on the shaft/cv end
32 spline IIRC and they are quite weak

your far better off with steel wheels any way  :roll:
dan

[discorich]

the alloys wont be a problem for me as i run mods and hopefully mach 5's soon. the newer freestyle alloys from a defender would work as they are missing the center cap. cheers for the advice on the CV's i think i know someone with a spare 90 front axle just missing a diff of which i have spare. cheers for the help again.

[Xtremeteam]

would the brake calipers from the disco fit? as i run 5 line brakes and 90's were only 3 line i believe.

the calipers of the disco bolt straight on to a defender axle dont have to split the brakes

[extreme90]

the alloys wont be a problem for me as i run mods and hopefully mach 5's soon. the newer freestyle alloys from a defender would work as they are missing the center cap. cheers for the advice on the CV's i think i know someone with a spare 90 front axle just missing a diff of which i have spare. cheers for the help again.

bin the mach 5 idea  :lol:

[discorich]

how come on the mach 5's? also in reference to the 90 front axle with the strong splines is that a 10 or a 24 spline?

[extreme90]

how come on the mach 5's? also in reference to the 90 front axle with the strong splines is that a 10 or a 24 spline?

it will be a 10 spline diff
diff wise, there identical strenght to 24 spline
10 spline shafts aint as strong as 24, but not much in it really  :roll:
but the cv's are very strong
my cv's took a pounding with 35's, and even with a front locker for a time before replacing with unbreakable cv's

oh, mach 5's

they rip calipers off cos there two open ( with lockers fitted )
they bend like 1mm sheet steel
and the welds crack from time to time ( every other week  :P )
ok they look good
but mods are alot stronger
dan

[andyb]

Horses for course really.

I took the 24 spline route and swapped in later 24 spline axles. The diffs are newer and less worn, the halfshafts are about (IIRC) 30% stronger. 24 splines HD V8 rear halfshafts are the strongest std LR item. That is what I run in an open diff 200TDi Disco.

All of this will be fine if you don't fit a front locker.

AEU2522 CVs and Ashcroft halfshaft into 24 splines diffs is the strongest non-locked front axle setup you can get with out going into stupid £££ :)

HTH

[extreme90]

totaly agree andy
what tyre size and pattern you using ?
or intending on using ?
id stick a early defender axle under her
and wait for something to break before up-grading it to 24spline
but you've got to break it 1st
dan

[Range Rover Blues]

Personally I have locking 10 splines front and rear and a shed full of spare halfshafts, it's the cheapest option for me.

That said I don't bust halfshafts, I do wheelbearings

[discorich]

I am planning on running a set of either 265/75R16 insa turbo special traks due to price or dependant on money maybe a set of 32/9.50R16 simex ET's (think that was the size). there is a lad in the club running a detorit 24 in the rear with ashcroft shafts and a true trak in the front with standard shafts and the stronger cv's this is a similar set up to what i am planning and he dosnt seem to have broken owt, he is also running the same tyres i am after.
i am planning on pickuping or tray backing my disco as it is too top heavy and too high for the tracks on the island due to low trees.
so with the rear it would be easy enough to get a 24 spline detroit and the uprated shafts and flanges i am thinking. front end is a bit more complicated but if i can get the 90 front axle that would be moderately easy it seems.

[extreme90]

strongly consider arb lockers over the detroit locker in the rear
they are awkward things to have in the rear axle
they never are doing what you want when you want, if you get me

and dont forget there perminantly locked, and unlock when cornering
not the other way around like some people think
dan

[Range Rover Blues]

That's very true, I had a Detroit for my sister but I never fitted it once I'd read the warnings in the instructions, like in ice they can actually lead to a loss of control :shock:

There have been occasions when any power through the wheels lead to me sliding off the track and the lockers when engaged made it worse.  Luckily I had the option to switch them off.

[extreme90]

exactly
there are times when std diffs aid you more than locking diffs will do
dan

[discorich]

it was the option to not have to think about locking the diff which was appealing to me altho i have always liked the idea of selectable lockers. any feed back on true tracks as a front diff?

[Range Rover Blues]

Those that use them like them, they work more ilke an open diff but then don't lock up fully, they can give up to 5:1 ratio so a bit of left foot braking gets the best of them.

It was a Truetrac I really wanted for RRR in the back (you can always move it up front) but her new car has ABS/ETC so I'm leaving it alone.  That said ETC would really make the best of a Truetrac in the rear.