NCP (DVLA) want snatch rights from enclosed private property

[666]

So all us that have unregisterd SJ's & Landrover/Rangerover and such risk having our toys stolen and crushed? Its getting worse! There must be some way around it, There is no way i would want to keep my SJ road legal, it costs me enough trying to keep my fronty on the road!

Guess i will have to get my SJ  SORN very quickley  

Cheers

Mark

[crazymac]

its very simple to de register your car with the DVLA, you merely send the docs to them telling them you have scrapped it!!

If you have an off road toy that will never touch tarmac then do this!!

My trialer will never touch tarmac, it is trailered to events, kept at a mates farm and had no registration marks etc on it any more, therefore it is not enforcable by the DVLA.

I "scrapped" mine after I had the fine from the DVLA for nor renewing my sorn, job done! 8)

If some sad person wants to come and look at engine numbers etc to track if it was scrapped then I will happily show them the trialer and when they notice that the engine number matches the scrapped vehicle then I will simply tell them "thats right, I scrapped the vehicle and used the engine in this one, recycleing at its best" :twisted:

[carbore]

Mean while if a child is being abused by its family they have to have 17 meetings and go to the courts and ask really nicley if it can be taken from its drug ridden parents.

But dont pay £140 quid or forget to fill in a form about a car and they sound round the heavy mob.

[denviks]

just a quick question to the knowledgeable here...

i bought my v8 disco last night. there was a misunderstanding and it turns out its not taxed and is sorned. i drove it home last night and its parked on the road outside my house. my insurance will be here forst thing in the morning ( had to pay more for garenteed delivery).....


whats the score with this as i will be taxing it from the first of ths month oct so in essence back dating it.......i belive that if the vehicle is sold the sorn no longer appiles.....is that right and where do i stand on it being on the road for 24hours?

[Evilgoat]

Dennis

You are at risk for it being clamped. They dont work fast enough to tow it if you sort it out tomorrow BUT they will record the fact its on the public road, this is an offence even if it is SORNed and they'll have you with no way out for you.

In all honesty you would probobly be all right but remeber that people do monitor these forums.

As long as not tax/SORN applies you are fair game,same goes for SORNed but on the road (parked)

[L90OOK]

You are breaking the law if it is untaxed & on a public highway...can be towed away  :shock:  ...whatever your intentions  :roll:
A vehicle is sorn'd whether sold or not & dvla will know change of ownership.
As Police Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system is linked to DVLA they can instantly tell what cars are not taxed, mot'd etc...  They have the power to seize & crush said vehicles...unless you are on the way to or from an MOT in which case different rules apply :roll:
I'd keep it on a drive or private property until you get the tax sorted.

[Evilgoat]

You are breaking the law if it is untaxed & on a public highway...can be towed away  :shock:  ...whatever your intentions  :roll:
A vehicle is sorn'd whether sold or not & dvla will know change of ownership.
As Police Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system is linked to DVLA they can instantly tell what cars are not taxed, mot'd etc...  They have the power to seize & crush said vehicles...unless you are on the way to or from an MOT in which case different rules apply :roll:
I'd keep it on a drive or private property until you get the tax sorted.

If he came home Via M27 J11 then he's been snapped already :(

[Thrasher]

Only time it can be on the road is if it is on way, or way back from, an MOT test. That's a PRE-BOOKED test too, and you must carry proof of this on your journey.

[Skibum346]

just a quick question to the knowledgeable here...

i bought my v8 disco last night. there was a misunderstanding and it turns out its not taxed and is sorned. i drove it home last night and its parked on the road outside my house. my insurance will be here forst thing in the morning ( had to pay more for garenteed delivery).....


whats the score with this as i will be taxing it from the first of ths month oct so in essence back dating it.......i belive that if the vehicle is sold the sorn no longer appiles.....is that right and where do i stand on it being on the road for 24hours?

SSSSHHHhhhhhhhhhh!!!!   :-$

[L90OOK]

Only time it can be on the road is if it is on way, or way back from, an MOT test. That's a PRE-BOOKED test too, and you must carry proof of this on your journey.

It has to be logged at the MOT station too.  So you can't blag it :lol:
He may well have been snapped by the ANPR's but who's it currently registered too  :lol:  Snail Mail ain't good at the moment
Will all probably be ok but you pays your money & takes your chance   :D

[Niel]

http://www.ncpservices.co.uk/dvla.htm

[denviks]

:(  :( ...god i hate this country sometimes..... i have always been a law abiding citezen.....i have just bought a car that is to all intense purposes legal.... but because i wait on a piece of paper that says im insured  i stand the chance of loosing my new car. i will be loosing almost a months road tax anyway which i am happy to do as i dont have anywhere to put the car so it is off the road  


its not like im not going to pay.....tomorrow morning by 0930am it will have tax on it....


i never came down the m27 yesterday day.....i came down the a32 instead from the m3......i used the m1, m25,m3,a32  

[666]

http://www.ncpservices.co.uk/dvla.htm

No mention of them gaining access to private property there :shock:

Cheers

Mark

[Niel]

:(  :( ...god i hate this country sometimes..... i have always been a law abiding citezen.....
i never came down the m27 yesterday day.....i came down the a32 instead from the m3......i used the m1, m25,m3,a32  

Your a subject, not a citizen, and the A32 has several monitoring points too, along with the M27 on-slip at J10 IIRC....You have been logged anyway on any motorway these days, and most A roads too...

[Niel]

http://www.ncpservices.co.uk/dvla.htm

No mention of them gaining access to private property there :shock:

Cheers

Mark

No, not yet, its going on in the halls of power, to be enacted in the usual underhand way buried in some other bill so no-one will raise objections, probably after much greasing of palms to ensure profitablity!
You did notice however that cars taken may not be crushed, but "broken up and recycled"....
Following another line of research NCP Services have been 'setting targets' and paying minimum wages, so seeking out higher value vehicles is likely, esp. if they can get one during the holiday season as most people take 2 weeks holiday and they start disposal after 7 days...

[Evilgoat]

:(  :( ...god i hate this country sometimes..... i have always been a law abiding citezen.....
i never came down the m27 yesterday day.....i came down the a32 instead from the m3......i used the m1, m25,m3,a32  

Your a subject, not a citizen, and the A32 has several monitoring points too, along with the M27 on-slip at J10 IIRC....You have been logged anyway on any motorway these days, and most A roads too...

I beleive the ROMANSE cams are used for it too :(

You probobly will be ok tbh but if you can get it off the road I would do so.

[Niel]

I beleive the ROMANSE cams are used for it too :(

You probobly will be ok tbh but if you can get it off the road I would do so.

I know Southampton has dedicated cam's on every entry/exit route, usually on top of the traffic lights, just like most motorway junctions...
If the extra feature's on the overbridge cams and the green pole cams be made live to DVLA/Plod now then its much worse, one type the lot on Segensworth East were playing with (Microsense) could even log tyre depth/wear!

[666]

http://www.ncpservices.co.uk/dvla.htm

No mention of them gaining access to private property there :shock:

Cheers

Mark

No, not yet, its going on in the halls of power, to be enacted in the usual underhand way buried in some other bill so no-one will raise objections, probably after much greasing of palms to ensure profitablity!
You did notice however that cars taken may not be crushed, but "broken up and recycled"....
Following another line of research NCP Services have been 'setting targets' and paying minimum wages, so seeking out higher value vehicles is likely, esp. if they can get one during the holiday season as most people take 2 weeks holiday and they start disposal after 7 days...

Yes, i noticed the recycled bit! As my SJ is probably worthless to most recycled i think i may be ok, but i must add that if a registration mark is not present on your vehicle that is parked on your private property then to identify this vehicle someone will have to break into it :shock: Is this not then tresspassing & criminal damage? :roll:  :roll:

Cheers

Mark

[denviks]

:(  :( ...god i hate this country sometimes..... i have always been a law abiding citezen.....
i never came down the m27 yesterday day.....i came down the a32 instead from the m3......i used the m1, m25,m3,a32  

You probobly will be ok tbh but if you can get it off the road I would do so.

i would if i had anywhere to mate....it would also mean driving it again  :(  :(  i think i will just have to tough it out tonight and just get it taxed in the morning. i dont think this law punishes the ones that dont buy road tax at all..... :(  :(

[Wireless]

Does it seem absurdly two-faced and ironic to anyone else?

NCP - National Car Parks, driving around clamping and lifting vehicles off the street, and soon to be breaking and entering for private property?

Does anyone actually use their Car Parks anymore, or have they converted them all to store the high value cars for seven days, before undertaking 'recycling'.

A legalised chop shop?  I suppose it gives jobs to all those people they have locked up who used to do it illegally.

Bolt to the ground, take off the Registration Plates, old tax disc, and any identifying marks, or build a shed around it and cover the windows.

[Wireless]

i would if i had anywhere to mate....it would also mean driving it again  :(  :(  i think i will just have to tough it out tonight and just get it taxed in the morning. i dont think this law punishes the ones that dont buy road tax at all..... :(  :(

Jack it up on blocks and remove the road wheels, then it's only an obstruction and they can't clamp it.  Take the Registration Plates off to really confuse them.

[Evilgoat]

As I said to Datalas, Thrasher et all earlier.

Criminalise the innocents so everyone is now a criminal, much easier than actually dealing with the real ones.

[Niel]

Does it seem absurdly two-faced and ironic to anyone else?

NCP - National Car Parks, driving around clamping and lifting vehicles off the street, and soon to be breaking and entering for private property?

Search the details out its 'NCP Services' a demerged company owned by 3i  www.3i.com