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« on: November 10, 2007, 14:46:28 »
is replacing the diff input seal on a salisbury axle the same as a rover type diff? or am i going to have mare  :?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 15:28:12 »
Be prepared for a major job! I was told to go and find a good used axle when it started leaking. It was going to be cheaper than the labour to do the job!

It's not the same as the Rover axle. Something to do with a collapsable spacer. I think you have to pull the diff apart from the back to get to the seal. This requires a hydraulic spreader IIRC!
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2007, 15:45:47 »
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Be prepared for a major job! I was told to go and find a good used axle when it started leaking. It was going to be cheaper than the labour to do the job!

It's not the same as the Rover axle. Something to do with a collapsable spacer. I think you have to pull the diff apart from the back to get to the seal. This requires a hydraulic spreader IIRC!
:?

you on drugs?

it comes apart just like a rover axle & takes about the same amount o time to change

had to do them regularly on the V8 90 as it had a sals & was run in the muck everyweekend,
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2007, 17:15:29 »
i was worryed for a second there cos i changed mine on thursday and all i did was undo the flange, prise it out with a screwdriver and bosh a new one in.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2007, 17:56:19 »
OK. Fair enough. I was told porkys then  :?

Edit that!!
Just looked it up in the genuine workshop manual and there can be trouble replacing the seal. The problem is that the collapsable spacer between the bearings should be replaced each time. If you don't you can increase the preload on the taper bearings each time you torque up the flange nut.

It can all be done from the front, but you shouldn't really do it without replacing the spacer.

Obviously, you can simply swap the seal, re-torque it and hope for the best. And you may get away with it. But it isn't what Land Rover tell you to do.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2007, 21:01:09 »
Quote from: V8MoneyPit
Be prepared for a major job! I was told to go and find a good used axle when it started leaking. It was going to be cheaper than the labour to do the job!
/quote]

Can we just not change the diff instead of whole axle?
I got a leaky one, bought the seal and was scared of procedure in manual (as you shown in later post) so never did it. I know some just pop the seal out and say had no trouble... but what about a few tens of thousand miles down the road, will they say the same then? just my luck for it to knacker up quickly anyway.
I was hoping to pick up a decent cheap diff if the opportunity arose and swap it over rather than whole axle :?

oh I was told to check the breather for blockage before doing anything too, as that can cause the leak and clearing a block can cure.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2007, 21:22:59 »
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Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"
Be prepared for a major job! I was told to go and find a good used axle when it started leaking. It was going to be cheaper than the labour to do the job!
/quote]

Can we just not change the diff instead of whole axle?
I got a leaky one, bought the seal and was scared of procedure in manual (as you shown in later post) so never did it. I know some just pop the seal out and say had no trouble... but what about a few tens of thousand miles down the road, will they say the same then? just my luck for it to knacker up quickly anyway.
I was hoping to pick up a decent cheap diff if the opportunity arose and swap it over rather than whole axle :?

oh I was told to check the breather for blockage before doing anything too, as that can cause the leak and clearing a block can cure.

 not quite

its easier to swap the axle than the diff as the diff comes out the back of the axle & you need a crusher for that
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 11:30:35 »
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Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"
Be prepared for a major job! I was told to go and find a good used axle when it started leaking. It was going to be cheaper than the labour to do the job!

It's not the same as the Rover axle. Something to do with a collapsable spacer. I think you have to pull the diff apart from the back to get to the seal. This requires a hydraulic spreader IIRC!
:?

you on drugs?

it comes apart just like a rover axle & takes about the same amount o time to change

had to do them regularly on the V8 90 as it had a sals & was run in the muck everyweekend,


Sounds good to me mike

will get it done in a week or so when i fit the rear disc conversion :D
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 02:10:46 »
Salisbury diff nose seal is metal skinned and is easily damaged when fitting, so be careful. Remove all traces of rust from the nose and the area inside the nose where the seal fits. Use grease to assist in fitting and if you have one - the round end of a hub nut box spanner will help to knock the seal in. Before undoing the nut, mark the nut/thread and count how many turns to remove the nut. When you reassemble, make sure the marks/turns are the same and the pre-load will not be affected.


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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 09:49:42 »
while you have the manual out ,

do you have the Torque setting for the Salisbury axle
pre torque setting. and torque

does it need a DTI to set the preload hoping its torque.


I can see that the back lash requires the casing to be squeezed but I suspect that new bearings would bring that within the tolerance


Steve might have to play about with that spare axlewhich ever one becomes spare.
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