Oh dear God no!

[lambert]

Sat on a side road just emptied a bin, hear a woman shouting, look round and a little kid no more than 3 year old is running about on the path.

Heard a car, looked in mirror to see one of the local chav scooby nutter's come belting up the street. Seen this one befor and he is mental. Next split second the child has run out under the chav, i couldn't get out of my seat belt fast enough to do owt.
 
The ambulance has just gone and i've given a statement to the police, and now i feel sick. :(

[Bouncy]

ohh dear .................... <BIG>

maybe they will kill chav scooby nutter and do society a favour.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Not a good feeling is it?

We see the aftermath & it's equally disturbing, but we have to detach ourselves.

That may sound harsh, but letting emotions get in the way doesn't help in our situation

(it doesn't mean we don't care though!)

[mike142sl]

What was chav's reaction?

[lambert]

Where it not for me and the others that witnessed it all i feel he would try to deny it. He certainly was showing no outward remorse.
 

[wellieboot]

OMG, thats horrific.  :shock:

I may be speaking out of turn here (in which case please tell me) - I've been in your position on a couple of occasions and it is sickening. Personally, what worked for me was going home afterwards (I was totally numb) and (I'm not afriad to admit this) bawling my eyes out.

On both occasions no one died (thankfully) and you do just drop into an autopilot mode. But heavens, did it hit me when the adrenaline wore off. I think I ended up helping the services because keeping busy was more comfortable than going back into the house or getting back in the car. I had to be doing something. When the business stopped..... well, it wasn't a nice place.  :(

Seriously chap - you have my sympathy. If there's anything people can help with, I'm sure you've only got to ask.

Boots

[lambert]

I grew up on a farm. I know things die, often when still young.

But this was pointless, all because some little wannabe bling gangsta chav could not think past making his dump valve go hiss.

All i'm hoping is that the flatish front air dam spread the blow over more of the kid and didn't do too much damage to any one bit.

[Niel]

Sat on a side road just emptied a bin, hear a woman shouting, look round and a little kid no more than 3 year old is running about on the path.

Heard a car, looked in mirror to see one of the local chav scooby nutter's come belting up the street. Seen this one befor and he is mental. Next split second the child has run out under the chav, i couldn't get out of my seat belt fast enough to do owt.
 
The ambulance has just gone and i've given a statement to the police, and now i feel sick. :(

IF your offered coucilling take it, PTSD is no joke, you might also consider a claim against the chav for emotional distress or some such....

Niel. Ambulance Tech. in previous employment.

[cardiff_gareth]

My hat goes off to all the emergency services, that is a job I never would like to do and the people who do it deserve medals - all of them.

Hope the little kid is ok, can you get an update on how he is or is it a family only thing :?:

As for the chav  :idea:  bring back the death penalty

[andyhubbard]

Hi Niel i'm presuming with the Hampshire service :?: ,seriously though mate he is right please talk to someone it will help and in the end remember were all mates on here.

[schuee]

Chav scum, just hate em :x

Hope your not feeling to bad mate, let us all know how the kiddie fares.

Cheers

[lambert]

My two pet pcso's work out of the same station as the attending officer so i'll get them to let me know what happens next.

[Evilgoat]

Not a good feeling is it?

We see the aftermath & it's equally disturbing, but we have to detach ourselves.

That may sound harsh, but letting emotions get in the way doesn't help in our situation

(it doesn't mean we don't care though!)

Matter of Necessity.

I really hope it all works out the way it should (Kid ok, Chav bollocked, banned and jailed) but I'll second what has been said about Counceling.

[BigSi]

I hope the Chav gets banged up and the key thrown away!! People like that make me sick!!!        

[Ralph]

I think people are forgetting something here, its was the child who ran out in front of the car, is it not the fault of the parent/guardian.

[lambert]

So nailing a high performance car on a quiet residential street is ok?

[datalas]

So nailing a high performance car on a quiet residential street is ok?

I don't think that's what was meant,  I think that Ralph was merely trying to comment that there is also blame to be attributed to the parents, especially in an age/area where there is likely to be high speed traffic around.

Not that it in any way excuses the speeding traffic, just that there was another way the affair could have been prevented.

[jjsaul]

So nailing a high performance car on a quiet residential street is ok?

20mph can do a lot of damage to a small child...admittedly more speed usually equals more injuries but where do you stop?

[thermidorthelobster]

Every extra 5mph doubles the risk of death.  That's why the limit is what it is.  I'd say you draw the line at not exceeding the speed limit.  Given there's such a clear link between speed and the risk of death, I don't really see how the driver could in any way not be held responsible.

[lambert]

Sorry for misunderstanding.

As to drawing a line on speed, this was not a case of constant high speed but accelerating hard deliberatly to look cool. :roll:  :shock:
 
But i know what you mean.

[datalas]

Sorry for misunderstanding.

As to drawing a line on speed, this was not a case of constant high speed but accelerating hard deliberatly to look cool. :roll:  :shock:
 
But i know what you mean.

Sadly in these situations there's plenty enough blame to go around, and not a single ounce of it makes it any better...

I just hope the child is OK and that the parents, driver and indeed anyone else who is even partly responsible is feeling just about as rough as you must be doing.

About the only innocent parties here are the two who appear to be hurt,  viz the child and the innocent bystander (yourself).  You have my sympathies.

[lambert]

Sorry for misunderstanding.

As to drawing a line on speed, this was not a case of constant high speed but accelerating hard deliberatly to look cool. :roll:  :shock:
 
But i know what you mean.

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Definately take the counselling if offered. Better still, ask for it. I'll echo what Niel said. PTSD is a git. I've played games with that particular 'black dog' for the last few years.
I hope the kid gets better, but again I wouldask why it was running into the road,not that I'm sticking up for the car driver. All residetial areas should be 20 mph zones with speed chicanes.

[simdeb]

i hate it when i see flowers at the side of a road always gives me goose bumps and makes my hair stand up on my neck, just remember there is always some one to talk to x

[Range Rover Blues]

So nailing a high performance car on a quiet residential street is ok?

20mph can do a lot of damage to a small child...admittedly more speed usually equals more injuries but where do you stop?

Simple, you drive at such a speed that you can stop in the distance you can see to be safe.

My driving instructor taught me that, I tell all my pupils, it hasn't changed.

Anything faster is unsafe, I don't care how you dress it up or what you call it, if you can't stop in time you're too fast.

[electricbluebadger]

Sorry for misunderstanding.

As to drawing a line on speed, this was not a case of constant high speed but accelerating hard deliberatly to look cool. :roll:  :shock:
 
But i know what you mean.

Difficult without being a witness but yep, if the chav was speeding they should throw the book at him........ unfortunately the book in this instance is seldom heavy enough

as for the parents taking some blame.. i agree.. but i think youll find the parents punishment already far outweighs the chavs... i wouldnt even want to imagine how much they are already blaming themselves

Cheers Steve

[Range Rover Blues]

Difficult without being a witness but yep, if the chav was speeding they should throw the book at him

What the will do is seize the car and re-create the incident on the same stretch of tarmac under the saem conditions.  Accident investigators can, givent he chance, determine quite accurately how fast a vehicle was travelling should the need arise.

[Wireless]

I think this would likely end up as careless driving (due care and attention?), in which case the maximum sentence is a fine and points, whether the child dies or not.

This area of law obviously needs revision, but people have been saying that for years and the law remains the same.

Maybe someone should E-petition Gordon about it?

[lambert]

An update.
 
 
The kid has survived with only minor injurys and a split skull.

The dirty chav has been let off with a warning(i could pass comment about that having a lot to do with the cps being scared of the fallout from prosecuting muslims but i wont).
 
 
So all in all not an ideal solution but could have been worse.

[botts]

great to here the kid is ok
but WOT the the hell is going on in this bloody country