When we went to bala last with chris9119 on a laning day I got my disco alpine window and gutter leaning against a tree but I was going very very slow and managed after some advice from others in the group to turn into the bank towards the tree and lift the window off . 8) without damage .
However a 90 in the group behind us was not so lucky I think there is a lot to be said for picking your route and having spotters on tight bits :shock: