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« on: November 15, 2007, 13:05:25 »
hey guys, not been on for ages!

well i got myself a Disco 2 TD5 hopefully on its way soon, all standard bar some AT tyres, so over xmas hoping to go to the local place (tixover) and have a go off road,

Whats the must buys to get for my car??

Never done it before so will prob stay on the wet grass for now lol!

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2007, 13:20:36 »
Decent spade and a good tow rope.

Start it simple, then through time you will find out what you need to change or buy. Your driving style and terrain you prefer will be the main decider towards any modifications.

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 13:26:45 »
Yeah i got a spade !! What about a bunjee rope like on top gear? lol
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2007, 13:40:47 »
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Yeah i got a spade !! What about a bunjee rope like on top gear? lol


Kenetic energy recovery rope (KERR) not a good idea for a novice, can do a lot of damage to your vehicle.

Best to stick with a normal tow rope for now.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2007, 13:52:28 »
cool i will look into a place on my way home from work,  what kinda length is best?
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 14:42:54 »
There's a question.

I have a 2metre, 3 metre and 9 metre.  Probably best to start with a 9, it can be doubled-up to a 4.5 that way (the longest you can legaly use as a tow-rope IIRC).

You don't always want to be too close either.

But as for what to buy first :-k

I'd say a couple of pints at your local pub meet.  Get to know your local crowd and ask about modifications, essential kit etc.

The most important thing to have on your first trip is some mates (and I don't mean profelactics).
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 14:57:50 »
lol, yeh i will bring a mate or 2 with me,
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 16:04:11 »
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is recovery points. Assuming you get stuck (everyone does!), you need 'proper' recovery points. Not the silly little tie down rings, but jate rings or similar directly mounted to the chassis. There are some huge forces generated extracting a 2 ton vehicle from 2 feet of gloopy mud!

Do Tixover operate a vehicle check on entry? If they do, they'll almost certainly insist on proper recovery points. This may just mean a tow bar. But worth looking into.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 16:22:43 »
Disco 2 front recovery point is a proper jobby, not a silly flimsy tie down thingy you get on defenders.

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 16:24:44 »
just looked out my office window, footloose 4x4 specialists over the road! lol

cool i was looking at recovery points, it has a tow bar
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2007, 16:27:44 »
Tow ball can be used, but the rope can slip off under load. Better if the it is a closed system to stop the rope from being able to come loose.

Just don't go offroading on your own, can lead to embarrasing long walks home!  :lol:

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2007, 16:47:23 »
i just intend on going to pay and play things to start
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 16:52:54 »
if you goto tixover make sure you wash your truck off properly and pretty sharpish too.... tixover mud makes the best grinding paste ever  :?
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 17:00:17 »
tank of fuel
recovery rope / points
front diff guard
high lift jack (5ft'er)
rear diff guard
Rock sliders
steering guard (only to remove it later as you hook your self on stuff)
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dual battery system
tools/spares kit*
roof tent and or roof rack

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 17:20:38 »
and then lots more beer :lol:  

steering guards are always good
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 17:31:16 »
Driver training.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2007, 17:32:20 »
can these gaurds be fabricated up easily? or is it a buy one jobby?
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 17:42:12 »
Probably easiest to buy one - if you pick carefully you might get one with front recovery points/hilift jacking points built in.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2007, 17:42:17 »
depends how good you are at welding, personnaly i would go to paddock or rebel 4x4 or somewhere and buy one with jacking mounts,
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2007, 19:34:11 »
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if you goto tixover make sure you wash your truck off properly and pretty sharpish too.... tixover mud makes the best grinding paste ever  :?


tell me about it

my gearbox has gone pop this week went tixover a few weeks ago

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2007, 19:46:55 »
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Quote from: "landroverkeith"
if you goto tixover make sure you wash your truck off properly and pretty sharpish too.... tixover mud makes the best grinding paste ever  :?


tell me about it

my gearbox has gone pop this week went tixover a few weeks ago


And did you wash your disco after playing at tixover Ben?? :roll:
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2007, 20:17:25 »
All you need for off road is a Pajero  :D

Already comes with bash plates installed as well as proper recovery points (not that you'll get stuck, they're for recovering other vehicles  :lol: )





Sorry guys, couldn't resist it  :wink:


Seriously though, the advice you've ben given already is sound. Go with another 4x4, take a good quality tow rope or strap (not one with hooks attached but one that uses proper shackles)
Also take some tools, you have got a Land Rover after all (oops sorry, there I go again  :oops:   :lol: )



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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2007, 21:29:18 »
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The most important thing to have on your first trip is some mates (and I don't mean profelactics).


Was going to say the same, stupid is the driver who goes out alone! Hmm profelactics, don't sound like our normal mud club meet Andrew lol

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2007, 21:48:34 »
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Quote from: "ben_haynes"
Quote from: "landroverkeith"
if you goto tixover make sure you wash your truck off properly and pretty sharpish too.... tixover mud makes the best grinding paste ever  :?


tell me about it

my gearbox has gone pop this week went tixover a few weeks ago


And did you wash your disco after playing at tixover Ben?? :roll:


No it looks better Muddy :lol:  8)

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2007, 21:52:49 »
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All you need for off road is a Pajero  :D

Already comes with bash plates installed as well as proper recovery points (not that you'll get stuck, they're for recovering other vehicles  :lol: )





Sorry guys, couldn't resist it  :wink:


Seriously though, the advice you've ben given already is sound. Go with another 4x4, take a good quality tow rope or strap (not one with hooks attached but one that uses proper shackles)
Also take some tools, you have got a Land Rover after all (oops sorry, there I go again  :oops:   :lol: )


Sound advice :wink:

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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2007, 02:10:10 »
forgot to add, a decent axe as tree's tend to fall....





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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2007, 08:32:07 »
A tow rope, some friends and a spade.

That is it.

(later edit) Yes, and recovery points, otherwise you've not got a lot to stick the tow rope one! - Knew I'd forget something - my mistake!  :oops:

No guards (just drive carefully), no lift kits (just drive carefully), no reinforcements (just drive carefully). No axe (just go back the other way if needs be.

Oh, if your out greenlaning, some stout boots and a good map. Getting out and walking ahead can save you a fortune on accesories that may be largely unecessary with care.

I have friends do everything from pay and play to Stanage Edge and more in totally standard Discos, Fronteras, Shoguns, Classic Rangies etc etc.

The gizomos may be nice to have, but by no means are they necessary.

All the money for fuel!  :lol:

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2007, 08:37:59 »
I really have to agree about the recovery points, I went out on the ashbourne laning trip in a standard disco 1 and got VERY stuck, the first lashing point ripped off and almost put my rescuers window through, the second ONLY just got me out, needless to say no more laning until this is sorted out  :oops:
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2007, 11:35:24 »
Right well i went shopping last night!

got a really good tow rope for 20 quid with 4 D shackles dont why 4 but thats what the guy give me,
2 spades, a little one adn a big one! the little one will stay in the car
2 10 litre jerry cans, were a fiver each. one for diesel one for water
got a new set of jump leads too
thinkin of a roof rack now, a little one at the back, gotta ask my mate to put it together though

Just need to get a pressure washer then for cleaning it all off!
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2007, 11:55:22 »
Dont pressure wash your radiator though, you will kill the fins  :wink:

One of those garden hand pump spray things :?  are good for the rad  :D

Seat covers are handy to  :wink:

 






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