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« on: November 21, 2007, 19:12:48 »
We it had to be done, and I'm pleased it has.

Operation Straight Through didn't go to plan.

A V8 with a straight through pipe is a bit too loud !


So we added the back box back onto the system.

Not too bad at all, on tick over its nice and deep.
Stick it in D  and off we go, auto changing at 2000 rpm without too much noise, in fact if you have the windows shut, its just a low deep rumble.

Now this is where the fun starts :)

Knock it out of D and into 2nd, Rev higher than 2400 rpm and all hell breaks loose with regards to Noise

Best way i can describe it is The General Lee on full chat, its the V8 Clapping noise difficult to explain, then manual into 3rd keeping the revs high, the noise !! Fantastic.

Stick it back into D it changes to TOP and that's the end of the sound track, back to a rumbling noise again.

So best of both worlds,
Im happy :)
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 19:57:13 »
:D  :D  :D  :D ....driiiibbbllleee.....

gonna remove my rear box cause i need a bit of noise but not too much  :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 22:19:30 »
Back box removal was our first option last week, but to be honest only a very small amount of difference.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 22:20:49 »
:?   damn lol.... i dont want her being too loud as i often do 70 miles to the plains and 70 miles home again so will end up deaf  :lol:  :lol:  but i want it to sound like a V8  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 20:49:56 »
On my DISCO V8...

Lost my middle box first - noise ok

One cat went - so lost them both - sounds great  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 14:24:27 »
For a second there, about half way through it sounds a bit like someone yawning rather than a V8 :lol:

Try these :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ09DuUnaq4&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fHVw4-jh8&feature=related
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 20:00:22 »
OK I'm fed up with it now, its Too Loud :(

To rub it in there's a American Pick Up truck who lives close to me who must have a V10 under the bonnet, Rumbles past, with such a Low Bass Exhaust, Not Loud, just very Base :)

Its what i want, but how the heck do you make a V8 sound LOW....


I'm thinking of making a Twin pipe exit out the back, with 2 Mufflers.

But have no idea what muffler to go for to produce the LOW Base :)


At the moment on tick over its low and nice as soon as we hit 2500 RPM it Rasps very Loud just like the General Lee !!  Which is fun, but Ive had enough now :( and want the Low Rumble from the Jungle ;)
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2007, 03:29:23 »
You need a nice wide pipe I reckon, slow the gas down and give it room to echo a bit.  That might have an effect of power/economy though :?


Whereabouts dod you stick the back-box?  if I'm up to speed you only have the back box on now.

Try a single box system with the mid box from a TDi, that's a straight through box rather than the staggered box on the V8 system.  My sports pipes have straight throughs and this is where most of the gain is.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2007, 09:56:34 »
Yes, i just have the back box at the end ( where the back box normally is )
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2007, 16:05:49 »
IIRC the back box is called an attenuator, it's just there to smooth out the note as on it's own does very little.  You need something a bit bigger underneath, I suppose you could try 2 back boxs, one in the middle and one at the back :?
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2007, 17:04:53 »
Im planning a twin Pipe system now :)

With Two silencers in the middle and no rear boxes.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2007, 17:17:11 »
Just make sure you fit a balance pipe between both sides or it will sound awful, not even as good as a 4-pot.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2007, 19:15:12 »
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Just make sure you fit a balance pipe between both sides or it will sound awful, not even as good as a 4-pot.


!!!! I was thinking of straight through pipes exiting both side's from each bank without ever touching each other  :evil:  guess thats a no no then  :roll:
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2007, 19:42:46 »
mmm dosent sound like a good idea now, Massive thanks for the advice mate :)

OK new idea 2 into 1 :) has to be 75mm :) with two exit pipes side by side
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2007, 13:36:52 »
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Just make sure you fit a balance pipe between both sides or it will sound awful, not even as good as a 4-pot.


!!!! I was thinking of straight through pipes exiting both side's from each bank without ever touching each other  :evil:  guess thats a no no then  :roll:


2 pipes throughout the car is ok, as long as you fit a balance pipe between the 2.  You get a smoother note if all 8 go into 1 at some point though, that's why the factory 2 pipe system is 1 piep just behind the engine (3.5 on carbs or early EFi IIRC).
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 22:08:44 »
The deep note you seek can be helped with hollywood deeptone mufflers, google it. ive got one but only one im afraid.

As for the balencing pipe, it depends for a smooth burble yes, but for a nasty growl no.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 16:35:40 »
Cheers Tommo :)

Deep tone here we come :)
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 10:49:57 »
Brian you have given me an awesome idea !!! Always wanted a charger but they hold their money too well for what they are  :cry:  SOOOOOOO respray coming in the new year !!!!! :lol:  :lol:  anyone know what colour the general lee is ?????? or where I can buy a confederate flag ???  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2007, 10:50:51 »
Already got the dixie land horns !!!!!  :twisted:
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2007, 10:53:36 »
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Already got the dixie land horns !!!!!  :twisted:


You beat me to it !!!
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2007, 11:23:08 »
Check this site out its awesome !  :lol:  :lol:

Just ordered the trucker master blast horns for the wifes paj for xmas  :lol:  :lol:

 http://www.airhorns.co.uk/products.asp?deptid=148&u=ICIFKEHNFHILFAKKCJDDFKHL
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2007, 11:26:49 »
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
http://www.airhorns.co.uk/imgs/sounds/dixe.au
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2007, 11:45:00 »
great site there :)
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2007, 14:11:47 »
Hi, I removed both the middle and back box to find it too noisy but settled with a smaller middle box and no back box..Sounds awesome..
Type in Bures or Range Rover in you-tube(not sure how to do a link  :oops: ).
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Re: The General Lee sound a like Competition !
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2008, 19:30:17 »
Hi, I removed both the middle and back box to find it too noisy but settled with a smaller middle box and no back box..Sounds awesome..
Type in Bures or Range Rover in you-tube(not sure how to do a link  :oops: ).
Its the blue classic with white mod wheels.

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what middle box did you fit mate ?

Im going to do the same

AS

Just a back box is too noisy :(

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Re: The General Lee sound a like Competition !
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2008, 23:23:35 »
Hi bri, hope your keeping well, I experimented with mine, I tried a straight through pipe, idle sounded awesome anything else sounded poo, plus with no back pressure the power was right down, then I tried a cherry bomb for a center box, sounded gorgeous but a wee bit too loud an raspy about 3,500 rpm,  when plugging through mud you could notice that the torque wasn't quite there, the only way to get the deep burble is with at least a 2.5" system,Morgan centre boxes sound good fitted on a mates disco (even better now the 5.7 Chevy engines fitted  :D )
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Re: The General Lee sound a like Competition !
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2008, 20:32:55 »
im still after a centrre box, a Morgan one may be expensive :(


need a cheap as chipscentre box to sort things out,

still a work in progress :)
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 03:48:32 »
What about another back box in the middle?
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 10:42:39 »
Yeah  :D There must be plenty of those about cos everybody is chopping them off ! I think I can hear one hitting a drive as we speak  :lol: :lol: :lol: Got one in the garage if anyone wants it  :twisted:
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