i had to laugh

[Guardian.]

tonight a stupid cow in a silly little silver shopping car decided to back into my rollers on the winch bumper.
shes got silver paint of her 06 silly shopping car wedged all in my rollers!
now she has a massive deep impresionoff some off roadin rollers  in her mums car boot and busted back lights, with not a single mark on my winchbumper :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
forgot to say she passed her test yesterday.
think im gonna make a roll gage with side impact bars if shes on the roads

[Boggert]

Crikey, thats not a good start to your driving life... :lol:

[martha focker]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  tipicle woman,


ill get my coat very quick :lol:  8)

[Devon-Rover]

Having seen a women only yesterday back into one of the small sheds just off the forecourt then go forwards take a shunt and then almost reverse into the shop  :roll:
After filling with fuel she didn't close her door properly and after turning left onto the road her door flew open. Thank god there wasn't any one coming up the road  :shock:

[Range Rover Blues]

Statistically I think women still have more accidents than men, but it makes good advertising policy to tell women they are getting the cheaper deals

What mucks it up for us is the under 25s who are having all the bad accidents.

Women are the ones who reverse into you, run into the back of you on a roundabout, that kind of stuff.

Whereas if a lad has an accident, it'll be rubber side up in a field somewhere, possibly with the air ambulance in attandance. :roll:

[Tailendcharley]

:D  :D On my way back from the Motorbike Show we were stuck in heavy stop go traffic on the M1 heading north...my mate was driving the car so I was just sat looking at the slow moving traffic using the nearside lane...I was absolutley amazed at the high number of females using mobile phones whilst driving...two in particular were driving Mercedes Benz cars...such a shame that they can afford these expensive vehicles but can't afford hands free kits...rant over :lol:  :lol:

 :D  :D Smithy  

[kourgath]

Hmm onother rant at various idiots on the road thread... I'm in...

Rowan, where was this Bere Alston Jet or Morrisons Tavy?

How about this lady yesterday, stopped on medium sized roundabout to answer her phone.  Then gave some interesting hand jestures to the lorry driver in front of me when they beeped at them... I'm not certain I could translate the gestures, but would hazzard a guess at go forth and multiply with thyself you something to do with salt cellars or vinegar bottles(?)

Guess she'd heard about pulling over to the side of the road to answer the phone, just not worrying about finding a safe place first.

[P16LET]

.......**** WARNING - Long rant to follow ...... ****

..Firstly, Guardian, how in God's name do you know that the lass who backed into your winch (..of which you must be most proud, as you reiterated the point more than once) only passed her test yesterday?!...are you psychic?...her dad?....or her driving instructor?! (...if it's the latter, it would sure explain a lot...   )

Secondly, the cheaper car insurance for women thing....on the whole the kind of claims that women submit are prangs...plain and simple. When was the last time you heard a bloke own up to bumping his pride and joy in a car park (...even though it does happen frequently! )...without going on to say that it rolled 15 times and spontaneously burst into flames?!

I hate to say it but yes, women do have a tendency to be appauling drivers ( I can quote chapter and verse on the number of altercations I have had with dizzy mares trying to kill me in a vehicular sense)...but that being said, there are a heck of a lot of appauling blokes too...they just do it more arrogantly. (...driving that is )

I will finish this minor tyrade by saying that I have never had a car accident that I caused myself, but have been subjected to two quite serious rear end collisions, both times by blokes. I was, in the past, a professional driver for BMW and didn't have one single accident, despite being at the helm of more that my fair share of M5's and 7-series (...and making the most of all that 400bhp....) So far this year I have racked up over 24 000 miles on my current car (...a 2.0 Vectra DI...owned since feb)) all without one single mishap.....so I do kinda take umbridge at being tarred with the same brush as all the numpties, male and female that plague the roads..... and car parks apparently

.............and if you were in any doubt after all this, yes,  this piglet is a girl!!  :(mad):

[daggie]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :lol:

[Ralph]

Must admit i thought the same a bit too much blame on women men are worse for sure.
Yes i am a bloke but big enough to admit that most women are much more careful than men.
Blokes tend too spend more time ogling women drivers than men so they are not getting the wider picture.
I also think that winches should be banned on any vehicle used on the road, afterall your hardly gonna use it there are you. How often on here do you see modded up trucks parked on the drive on a housing estate.
One more thing if you had laughed at me i would have stuck you very shiney probably unused up your rear end.

[martha focker]

i think you in for it with this thread mate :lol:

[dreadnought110]

Ok i think the quality of the pictures naff but you get the idea!!! 8)  8)

[Guardian.]

piglet, she told me shed just passed her test yesterday,and i know some female drivers are very good, it was just unfortunate another 'accident' i have been involved in has been caused by a woman.
dont get me wrong i am far far from perfect and had 3 or 4 accidents, 2 corkers!

[crazymac]

Must admit i thought the same a bit too much blame on women men are worse for sure.
Yes i am a bloke but big enough to admit that most women are much more careful than men.
Blokes tend too spend more time ogling women drivers than men so they are not getting the wider picture.
I also think that winches should be banned on any vehicle used on the road, afterall your hardly gonna use it there are you. How often on here do you see modded up trucks parked on the drive on a housing estate.
One more thing if you had laughed at me i would have stuck you very shiney probably unused up your rear end.

 
I disagree, men and women are as bad as each other! the problem is some people just put the art of driving 4th or 5th on their list of things to do while driving!!

As for banning winches from road going vehicles???? what the ????? How are you going to get to where you are going off road if you can't drive on the road?? And also I have seen many cars recovered from crashing into a field by a winch equipped vehicle that happened to be passing!!

There may well be shiney winches parked on housing estates, but think about it, If someone is responsible in their ownership, then they will clean their vehicle and winch ASAP so leaving it shiney. I would rather that than the numpties that leave the mud hanging off cos they think it "looks cool"

[discomummy]

HI,

i live near a nice selection of windy roads - we have recently had a death because a kid of 17 passed his test, next day borrowed his mums car and promptly drove into a tree on one of these windy roads.

 Unfortunately he,  like so many other young drivers, appeared to believe because he could do it on the racing games on the computer - he could do it for real on the road.  

i meet a lot of these around our way - and have seen horses very frightened because of them

regards

ela

[Lozza]

Statistically I think women still have more accidents than men, but it makes good advertising policy to tell women they are getting the cheaper deals

What mucks it up for us is the under 25s who are having all the bad accidents.

Women are the ones who reverse into you, run into the back of you on a roundabout, that kind of stuff.

Whereas if a lad has an accident, it'll be rubber side up in a field somewhere, possibly with the air ambulance in attandance. :roll:

I had to take a deep breath before replying to this......

I don't think insurance companies are in the business of giving money away - so if insurance is cheaper for women it means that they have less accidents than men.  

Without wishing to generalise - which you all seem to be doing - men are cocky drivers with NO patience.  They drive too close and are invariably on their mobile phones.

I have had only one accident and it was caused by a man going over the lights on red - his insurance company paid me a lot of money - but it didnt compensate for the fact that I lost my nerve and no longer drive. (one less woman I hear you say)

I think there are good and bad in each group - but basically men like to show off and don't like to admit weakness.

[ian_s]

i see just as many men as women doing stupid things, there really is no difference between them.
its the inexperienced drivers who are the problem, they should be limited to very small engines for a few years, like they are with bikes.

[kourgath]

Oh proper rant thread :)

As a Driving Instructor, I get to see a huge amount of good and bad driving, some of it from learners some from those who should know better. Sometimes it is a woman other times it is a man.

The test is very hard, but often the problem is compounded by parents/peer pressure saying stuff like 'now you passed your test, you can learn to drive properly' also I remember detroying my mums car 3 weeks after passing my test because I was stupid. I learned from that experience but many others don't. We do have Pass Plus which adds more lessons and has been shown in studies to reduce the accident responsibility rate from 67% to 48% in young drivers.  Is it mandatory? Of course not. Do we insist on 5/10 year checkups of safe driving? Does the HSE require under PUWER that you have adequate training for work equipment including vehicles and regular updates - Yes. Do we do it- No.

We all think we are great drivers (Direct Line survey back in late 90's had 89% saying they were better than average) and it is always the others who are at fault, in the case above backing into a winch etc then it wasn't us.  Just playing Devils Advocate here, could a quick beep of horn helped the situation to warn her you were there?

I had a collison once in the LR when my Mrs was preggy.  Nova, 2 lads caps on sideways, boombox going.  Long striaght town road, I was doing 30 they kept zooming up behind me then slowing to zoom again.  I signalled a bit earlier than normal, slowed gently with plenty of brake lights.  They still drove into me.  His first words were 'didn't see you mate' LR/Mrs/kiddie to be fine, nova screwed. So sometimes we can do all we can and still not avoid it.

I did read in one mag that the police records showed that LR's were the safest vehicle to be in simply because they had less accidents than any other vehicle (I'll try to find it) probably because we are higher up and more aware of the world around us, also they aren't generally lusted after by teenagers like Saxo/106 etc. I don't think that limiting cars to very small engines is going to make a difference as it already happens. Insurance for anything over a 1.1 is over a thousand for most kids.

[Range Rover Blues]

Oh proper rant thread :)
I did read in one mag that the police records showed that LR's were the safest vehicle to be in simply because they had less accidents than any other vehicle (I'll try to find it) probably because we are higher up and more aware of the world around us, also they aren't generally lusted after by teenagers like Saxo/106 etc. I don't think that limiting cars to very small engines is going to make a difference as it already happens. Insurance for anything over a 1.1 is over a thousand for most kids.

Yeap. I read that too.  It's funny because the anti's reckon our 4x4 are just acciddents waiting to happen.  My answer to that is my 5.0 RRC LSE costs less to insure than my Nissan Micra 1.4 DCi.  Yes it's my driving school car, but then it's got all my no-claims on it too.

[Range Rover Blues]

Statistically I think women still have more accidents than men, but it makes good advertising policy to tell women they are getting the cheaper deals

I had to take a deep breath before replying to this......

Without wishing to generalise - which you all seem to be doing - men are cocky drivers with NO patience.  They drive too close and are invariably on their mobile phones.


I think there are good and bad in each group - but basically men like to show off and don't like to admit weakness.

Sorry, but that is exactly what you have done.  Statistically I said, that means someone has looked at the numbers.

As for insurance companies, well just for a laugh I tried getting quotes for a few cars based on mine and my sister's details.  Whilst it is slightly cheaper on some cars for my sister, the women-only companies are by for the most expensive, don't believe everything you see on adverts.

Another reason your run-of-the-mill insurance is going up is the increase in specialist policies.  Underwriter's have realised there are groups out there who are super-low risk and reward them accordingly.  
What this means though is that those premiums are no longer able to support the run-of-the-mill policy, which I say is fair enough.  My classic Fords are all on one classic policy, agreed value, no mileage limit.  Last year it was £105, this year it went up quite a lot to £170 but then I had added a 5th car to the policy and it's worth more than the rest put together.  Again this is with no no-claims discount.

[muddyjames]

How about this lady yesterday, stopped on medium sized roundabout to answer her phone.  

this is illegal any way. I got told so by a cop once when I thought he was stopping me but gave the wrong arm signal!!!

The day after I passed my test (no minors / totaly clean pass sheet) I came off a roundabout and went into the inside lane and got a blast on the horn, looked round and saw a car I nearly got. All because I thought the looking in the blind spot was just rubbish, how could a whole car not be seen in it. Ever since then I have always looked in blind spot, even on motorways. I also had an accident in my Mums car, Someone pulled out infront of me at a junction, I swerved and missed them but got the rnge rover that pulled over as predicted what was about to happen. Damn. Before that accident I admit yes, I was an absolute idiot doing silly speeds down twisty national speed limit roads. Second I had that accident I realised I wasn't invinsable. Now I get more pleasure out of getting more mpg / miles out of a tank of fuel than speed.  I know I am sad and 25yrs old!

When I was a postie I used to be a bit quick shall we say but I felt I was a much safer driver then as I was having to pay alot more attention to cars coming etc as constant stop starting. since being not a postie any more I feel I am driving differently and more lazy. You had to be quick and be aware all the time otherwise you would be hit up the back or dead!

I am no "god" at driving but everyone has thier moment lapse of consentration which maybe the girl stated in the first thread had. she may have been so worried about clipping the car in the bay next to her she didnt look behind enough?

I could type loads here but I will save it for another day! :D

[P16LET]

I would be inclined to agree that insurance companies aren't in the habit of giving money away....but that being said, insurance as a whole is based on a "risk assessment" put together by the insurance company and/or underwriter.

This is why they like to know when vehicles have mods added to them, as it could make them more "nickable", same can be said for a change of colour....black and red cars are percieved to be more desirable to Joe CarThief than grey or brown ones (...and just as a side bar, "dull" colours have a poorer resaleabilty value than their red/black counterparts)...the list is by no means exhaustive....and it is into this catergory that the whole woman driver=cheaper insurance debate falls.

It's not that women are any better or worse than men at driving...although we all have out own opinions as to why they perhaps are, worse that is.. (...don't do as much long distance driving, no concept of spacial awareness etc)...as far as insurance companies are concerned it is based on the ££££ value of insuring women.
Most policies carry an excess of around £250...and most female steering induced prangs don't creep too far beyond this...that's if a claim is made at all. The reliance is usually on hubby/partner/father/brother to get down the local scrappers and repair it without ever involving the insurance company. Whereas men do have a tendency to do things quite spectacularly, and the claim goes way beyond the excess, so insurance is used more often than not to cover the repairs.....and it is this major difference that insurers are relying on when it comes to premiums.

From the general tone so far, I too believe that it is primarily the under 25's and new drivers that wreak havoc with insurance premiums, but similarly, if we are going to restrict the under 25's to 1000cc, then perhaps we ought to have enforced advanced driving courses for anyone wanting to own and drive a high permance car...on a par with part 1 & 2 for motorbikes?! ...............

...and just as a point of interest, I pay £236 fully comp a year for my Vectra....and that's with 3 points (  :oops:  )  :D  :D  :D