Defender poor starting

[muddydisco]

Right 300 tdi poor starting, it's had new glow plugs. Take's about a minute to start it's like the fuel is draining back. Removed lift pump arm is ok checked fuel pipes all seem ok. It only does it when left over night

Any common faults

Cheers aaron

[extreme90]

have you removed the fuel filter to see if its brimming ?
it should be full to the top, if not then the lift pump is weak which will also give poor starting

tomorrow before starting it, prime the engine up off the lift pump and then see how it starts
if it strikes straigh up you got a air leak

other common places are the injector leak off rail, and fuel into the injector pump

some other things are bound to come to me later on, but at the mo, im still recovering from a megger night up town, so please bear with me  :lol:
dan

[extreme90]

something else ( told you there would be  :lol:  )
make sure the fuel tank breather isnt blocked, as that will syphon the fuel back to the tank,
remove the fuel cap and listen for a hiss after a period of running
dan

[ep90]

I had this exact same problem on my 300Tdi disco.  I changed the plugs etc and one of the injectors, but it turned out to be the timing. When I went to change the belt it was loose!  Put a new belt on and timed in correctly and it starts up first time now.

[extreme90]

youd get smoke and alot of coughing if it was the timing
even when the timing is 2 teeth out on the pump, 10 seconds of cranking and they will start
1 minute ish of trying to get ot go means theres no fuel there to me

[L90OOK]

Are you running on biodiesel or veg oil?  If so try thinning down with diesel to 50/50 mix.  8)

[muddydisco]

Are you running on biodiesel or veg oil?  If so try thinning down with diesel to 50/50 mix.  8)

Knowing the bloke it's most properly runing on the red stuff  :roll:  :roll:

[extreme90]

Are you running on biodiesel or veg oil?  If so try thinning down with diesel to 50/50 mix.  8)

Knowing the bloke it's most properly runing on the red stuff  :roll:  :roll:

 :lol:  :lol: should run better then  :lol:  :lol:

[GREENI]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

[extreme90]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

[GREENI]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

[extreme90]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

[L90OOK]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

[GREENI]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

NO, .........not a clue.....Hey we hi-jacked a thread...Sorry, wasn't me

[muddydisco]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

Going have to get the sj413 done realy quick so i can come out and have a laugh with you lot. :lol:  :lol:

[GREENI]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

Going have to get the sj413 done realy quick so i can come out and have a laugh with you lot. :lol:  :lol:

What on Earth are you on about ???
We are all sensible, upstanding members of the community you know.

[Xtremeteam]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

Going have to get the sj413 done realy quick so i can come out and have a laugh with you lot. :lol:  :lol:

What on Earth are you on about ???
We are all sensible, upstanding members of the community you know.

maybe so but any1 who runs out of fuel offroad deserves to be laughed at :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[GREENI]

Never heard such a load of old cobble ......
Defender 300 tdi's NEVER go wrong :troll:

want a bet  :tongue:  :tongue:

no fuel = no go  :sobsob:  :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about :(scared):

 :lol:  :lol:  must be another greeni, with a 300 with a dump valve on his tricked out d44 hard top 90
which co-incidently looks exactly the same as yours  :lol:  :lol:
dan

 :(biglaugh):  :whothedaddy:  :smack:

Going have to get the sj413 done realy quick so i can come out and have a laugh with you lot. :lol:  :lol:

What on Earth are you on about ???
We are all sensible, upstanding members of the community you know.

maybe so but any1 who runs out of fuel offroad deserves to be laughed at :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh yes I agree, ha haha ha ha hahahahah haha hahah D'oh.

[extreme90]

:lol:  :lol: im saying nothing  :lol: