Fairytale of newyork

[rollazuki]

So, who has heard that radio 1 is gonna edit 'fairytale of Newyork' ?
Kirsty Mcholl(spelling?) and the Pogues is to have the word 'FAGGOT' removed as radio listeners may find it offensive.


Damn, its the best christmas record out there, and now its gonna have a beep/silence in it..... :roll:


The world has officially gone mad.[/code]

[666]

Your having a laugh surley?
It has to be the best xmas song ever, and they are going to edit it? Strange how no one has found it offensive in the last god knows how many years the song has been around, it must be nearly 20 years old :shock:  That is just ridiculous! Whatever next :roll:  :roll:

Cheers

Mark

[TDi90]

So, who has heard that radio 1 is gonna edit 'fairytale of Newyork' ?
Kirsty Mcholl(spelling?) and the Pogues is to have the word 'FAGGOT' removed as radio listeners may find it offensive.


Damn, its the best christmas record out there, and now its gonna have a beep/silence in it..... :roll:


The world has officially gone mad.[/code]

THEY ALREADY HAVE  :shock:  :shock:
they just mute it when it says faggot.
there was a lot of debate about this on radio 1 yesterday afternoon. load sof listeners were texting in asking why it was muted.   they said it was the producers at BBC not the dj's.

Rob

[Kaneda]

What is so offensive about a meatball?

Or are they to be banned next .. imagine it in Tesco!

Brains F*gg*ts!!!!  :shock:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

What is so offensive about a meatball?

Or are they to be banned next .. imagine it in Tesco!

Brains F*gg*ts!!!!  :shock:

My sentiments exactly! What next, editing the word Christmas in case it offends non-Christians?
Will they take out the line, "Happy Christmas, your arse" I wonder?

[666]

What is so offensive about a meatball?

Or are they to be banned next .. imagine it in Tesco!

Brains F*gg*ts!!!!  :shock:

My sentiments exactly! What next, editing the word Christmas in case it offends non-Christians?

That seems to be what its coming to dont it :roll:  :roll:

Cheers

Mark

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

I mean in all fairness, this is the verse they are on about.

You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead on a drip
In that bed

You scum bag
You maggot
You cheap lousy faggot*
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God
It's our last



Is it that bad? It was edited for Top of the Pops and for the Ronan Keating version, I'm presuming that was because poor old Ronan didn't want his image tarnished, when he dueted with Marie Brennan from Clannad.
Mind you in my younger days, I worked backstage on a few Clannad gigs, and they are no saints, believe me!
They really tucked away the booze and smoked very long cigarettes! :shock: naughty people!

[Niel]

So, who has heard that radio 1 is gonna edit 'fairytale of Newyork' ?
Kirsty Mcholl(spelling?) and the Pogues is to have the word 'FAGGOT' removed as radio listeners may find it offensive.

Damn, its the best christmas record out there, and now its gonna have a beep/silence in it..... :roll:

The world has officially gone mad.[/code]

Just don't play the ruddy thing, awful record at the time and just as carp now...

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

At the risk of being pilloried, I have to say my least favourite Christmas song is 'Band Aid'. I bought it out of the thought of doing something to help in the 80's, but never played it.

[andycwb]

So, who has heard that radio 1 is gonna edit 'fairytale of Newyork' ?
Kirsty Mcholl(spelling?) and the Pogues is to have the word 'FAGGOT' removed as radio listeners may find it offensive.


Damn, its the best christmas record out there, and now its gonna have a beep/silence in it..... :roll:


The world has officially gone mad.[/code]

And in related news the Brains are renaming their product "West Country Meatballs".

[andycwb]

At the risk of being pilloried, I have to say my least favourite Christmas song is 'Band Aid'. I bought it out of the thought of doing something to help in the 80's, but never played it.

Good cause, crap song.

[Kaneda]

Pointless lyric at the start too ...

"..and there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time"

As Christmas is in the middle of their summer and about 40+ degrees I'd hope there isn't!

[Hightower]

Funny thing is that Radio 2 are still playing the full version  :lol:

[Lucy1978]

Errr Sudan and the majority of Ethiopia are North of the Equator, so it doesn't quite work like that.  Though anytime after the end of Feb in Sudan is pretty warm, we went through the middle of January and it was over 40C in teh cab.

So no there won't be snow but remember Africa is a big place.

The most Ironic thing is that for the most part The Sudan is a Muslim country so the question shouldn't be, "do they know it's Christmas time?" rather "do they care it's Christmas time?" err no.

[Kaneda]

Yep, it is a big place.

The Sahara is quite large too :)

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Pointless lyric at the start too ...

"..and there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time"

As Christmas is in the middle of their summer and about 40+ degrees I'd hope there isn't!

Perhaps Sir Bob and Midge had a heads up about global warming and had based the song for a time approx 200 years ahead, or something. I'm confused now.

[Boggert]

What the hell is happening here?? when a 30 year old song gets the dreaded "Diversity Treatment"

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Anyone else notice the similarities?

[Boggert]

Dear God he looks rough, with all the money a dentist might be in order! LOL...

[denviks]

smmmmmmeeeeeeggggggeeelllllll  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ...


thought i recognized him  


just cant believe they are bleeping/muting it  :?  :?  :?

[rollazuki]

Kilimanjaro is in Africa........that has snow......

So they dont actually care its christmas and they do have snow!


band aid was so wrong...

[Kaneda]

a snippet from our office

I don't understand the BBC.  They edit the use of the word "faggot" in a song they play once every 3 or 4 hours, but have no problem using the exact term in their news bulletins every 30 minutes about the furore they have caused!!!

Radio 1 had it in every news bulletin this morning.  I changed to Radio 5 and they were having a debate on it.  I've heard that word more times on their news programming then I have heard Fairy Tale of New York in my entire life

[datalas]

Well ...  I was looking at the original lyrics, and I think you'll find that they are indeed very offensive.

"you scum bag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot, happy christmas your arse I pray god it's our last"

Well, if you overlook the scum bag, maggot, faggot references then I think you'll find that you are still being highly offensive to the following groups for the following words....

you - Well, this is clearly a reference to someone, or something that exists outside of the sense of self.  Buddhists and various religious groups tend to believe in a more collective conciousness and the concept of a manifest ID is quite offensive.  Not to mention the groups who believe that we are all parts of the universe made manifest.  Not to mention the direct attack against people with low self esteerm

happy - well, speaking from the perspective of a depressive personality, I find this rather insulting, why can't I be miserable ?

christmas - need I say more ?

Your / our - Overlooking the arguments against the personification of self, this also denotes ownership.

last - That implies termination, ending, or possibly worse failure.  "last place" has very negative connotations.

So,  I suggest we change the lines to be as follows.

Addressing a non specific reference to an alternative manifestation resembling a flexible container for sodium stearate,  another reference to the same manifestation which also resembles an chronologically challenged insect pupae, another reference to the same manifestation which may also be claimed to resemble an inexpensive and coincidently poor quality meat ball derivative,  A none specific emotional or otherwise pleasantry of choice is imparted regarding a nominal mid winter festival can be attributed to the rearward facing section of the same alternative manifestation by means of the perpendicular pronoun by communicating with a none specific deity or convenient metaphysical abstraction which incurs thoughts that the current situation may pertain to bearing the properties of a deferred first

Which communicates the same meaning and I think you'll be forced to agree doesn't lose any of the punch of the original.

[Disco Matt]

Google translator really needs to include a "PC" option... :lol:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Well ...  I was looking at the original lyrics, and I think you'll find that they are indeed very offensive.

"you scum bag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot, happy christmas your arse I pray god it's our last"

Well, if you overlook the scum bag, maggot, faggot references then I think you'll find that you are still being highly offensive to the following groups for the following words....

you - Well, this is clearly a reference to someone, or something that exists outside of the sense of self.  Buddhists and various religious groups tend to believe in a more collective conciousness and the concept of a manifest ID is quite offensive.  Not to mention the groups who believe that we are all parts of the universe made manifest.  Not to mention the direct attack against people with low self esteerm

happy - well, speaking from the perspective of a depressive personality, I find this rather insulting, why can't I be miserable ?

christmas - need I say more ?

Your / our - Overlooking the arguments against the personification of self, this also denotes ownership.

last - That implies termination, ending, or possibly worse failure.  "last place" has very negative connotations.

So,  I suggest we change the lines to be as follows.

Addressing a non specific reference to an alternative manifestation resembling a flexible container for sodium stearate,  another reference to the same manifestation which also resembles an chronologically challenged insect pupae, another reference to the same manifestation which may also be claimed to resemble an inexpensive and coincidently poor quality meat ball derivative,  A none specific emotional or otherwise pleasantry of choice is imparted regarding a nominal mid winter festival can be attributed to the rearward facing section of the same alternative manifestation by means of the perpendicular pronoun by communicating with a none specific deity or convenient metaphysical abstraction which incurs thoughts that the current situation may pertain to bearing the properties of a deferred first

Which communicates the same meaning and I think you'll be forced to agree doesn't lose any of the punch of the original.

What the 'F' does that mean? :shock: I'll stick to the original, thanks!

[narked]

Apparently they are now reversing the decision, and will once again be playing the unedited song.

And I agree with the point above about the news bulletins. Me and a mate had Radio 1 on whilst we went to town earlier, and lost track of how many times they actually used the word "faggot" whilst discussing the decision.

[Drift]

Listening to Chris Evans on R2 on the way home from work, he said R1 was editing it R2 was not  :?

[Dr Evil]

Anyone else notice the similarities?

I know Gollum's got better teeth !  :lol:

[Bush Tucker Man]

Your having a laugh surley?
It has to be the best xmas song ever,

As much as I totally despise the allegedly 'festive season', I will admit to a liking of the following seasonally related offerings'

Jonah Lewie 'Stop The Cavalry'
Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band 'S*nta Cl*use Is Coming To Town'
Steve Earle & The Dukes 'Nothing But A Child'

Plus, most of The Ronettes/The Crystals offerings, but that could be down to the 'Phil Specter sound'??

[narked]

Stop The Cavalry is one of my personal faves too. Also absolutely love Ted Nugent's version of Deck The Halls.