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Offline 90sam

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« on: December 24, 2007, 23:09:07 »
Now that the 90 has gone and its getting closer to being 17 im thinking about my first car for the road. What do people think? I was thinking a cheapo old 200tdi disco but would a little car be better?
Any advice?
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 23:13:57 »
my advise would be to get a little sj ....
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2007, 23:18:46 »
If you can afford the insurance I would say to go for the Disco. If you try to find a seven seater then you'll suddenly become very popular for nights out. Just go easy on the bends if you have people in the folding rear seats who are a little the worse for wear...

Insurance will be fearsome though - Insurance companies see a 2.5 turbo engine in something that will demolish most other vehicles on impact and charge accordingly. My insurance aged 17 (on a Citroen ZX 1.9D) was well over £1k for the first year, in fact one place quoted £4k!

Also worth bearing in mind that a real cheapo 200TDI Disco will probably have been absolutely hammered by previous owners and never looked after, so you may well end up spending a fortune on repairs. If you can save a little more and get one in better condition then you'll be better off in the long run.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2007, 23:51:18 »
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If you try to find a seven seater then you'll suddenly become very popular for nights out. Just go easy on the bends if you have people in the folding rear seats who are a little the worse for wear...


I would not bother fit a camera and chuck it round corners, make £200 a time  :lol:

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2007, 00:05:03 »
First road car should be a series.  A little 2.25 diesel tax exempt jobby.  Save yerself £200 a year on road tax, generally cheaper and easier to fix if you have a bang or break down and can go on a classic policy which is cheaper.


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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2007, 00:07:23 »
i got a 90 for my first car, is doing me great :lol:  so far
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2007, 00:32:37 »
im with Badgers my first was a series

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2007, 09:19:05 »
liverpool victora is the cheepest in the country for young drivers.

http://www.lv.com

1500 pound fully comp

for my hybird

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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2007, 10:34:34 »
Yer i need to get some insurance qoutes and then go fro there. I want to go to uni so thought off roading would be a good way to pass the time! And tax i dont mind about i just need the comfort of a disco haha! I was thinking about a little diesel fiesta but if i had a crash in one i wouldnt feel too good wheras in a disco i wouldnt feel it as much. They both cost the same to buy and i know how to fix a disco so it maybe cheaper in the long run.
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2007, 13:13:22 »
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liverpool victora is the cheepest in the country for young drivers.

http://www.lv.com

1500 pound fully comp

for my hybird

cheers shaun


Actually your wrong, the cheapest for young drivers is quinn direct

http://www.quinn-direct.co.uk/

They also take into account your driving experience as well and convert it into a no claims bonus.

But for first car you might want to get one of your parents to insure it and have you as a named driver (alot of companies now will allow the named driver to be the main driver of the vehicle) which will make it cheaper and thus set you up for a company like quinn direct so you get your first insurance cheap.


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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 16:58:50 »
get a sammy :) i did (sort of)
would a midget fall over doing the limbo???

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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2007, 18:38:56 »
my issues with the sujuki SJ were this...

1) dangerously slow

2) poor fuel economy for somthing that is slow and wont tow a lot

3) Parts availability seemed a little more limited than with a land rover. with most people i know with SJ's just buying rotton ones for £50 for spares. which is good, but if its your daily driver, sometimes you need to fit new parts fast so it will get you to work the next morning. no good asking round for an alternator when you dont have a second car.
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2007, 19:13:14 »
Quote from: "90sam"
I want to go to uni so thought off roading would be a good way to pass the time!


More to the point, a Disco will be far better if you have a long drive at each end of term (a Series or Defender will become very wearing at motorway speeds!)
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2007, 19:25:23 »
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Quote from: "landymad839"
liverpool victora is the cheepest in the country for young drivers.

http://www.lv.com

1500 pound fully comp

for my hybird

cheers shaun


Actually your wrong, the cheapest for young drivers is quinn direct

http://www.quinn-direct.co.uk/


I second that, they are in Northern Ireland and are really cheap and have excellent customer service, in the event of an accident they sort it within days!!!
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2007, 19:50:47 »
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my issues with the sujuki SJ were this...

1) dangerously slow

2) poor fuel economy for somthing that is slow and wont tow a lot

3) Parts availability seemed a little more limited than with a land rover. with most people i know with SJ's just buying rotton ones for £50 for spares. which is good, but if its your daily driver, sometimes you need to fit new parts fast so it will get you to work the next morning. no good asking round for an alternator when you dont have a second car.


easier to insure than a land rover

easier to modify

less need to fix than on a land rover  :lol:
would a midget fall over doing the limbo???

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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2007, 20:09:36 »
yerrr i think im going to get a discovery but need to check out the insrance! I  need to be able to drive long distances in it so rules out a suzuki and a series!

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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2007, 20:26:48 »
dont forget anything over 1.6 you'll get hammered on insurence
would a midget fall over doing the limbo???

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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2007, 21:13:45 »
Insurance will drop dramatically after the first year or so, assuming you manage to avoid becoming a statistic. You might find it helps to join the owners' club too - sometimes they can get you a better deal.
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2007, 22:05:30 »
Im trying to avoid being a statistic by getting a disco! Otherwise i will have the 1.8 focus! Im already in a owners club and i think some specialist landy insurance will see me through haha! if its cheaper than the focus to insure then i will be gettign a disco

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2007, 00:14:06 »
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easier to insure than a land rover

easier to modify

less need to fix than on a land rover  :lol:


ahh im not getitng into this debate!!!  :lol:  i was purely trying to be constructive.

an SJ is deffo easyer to modify on a budget, your right there. ive never had one so i couldnt comment on reliability, but it cant be any worse than a mis treated land rover (like mine!)

not sure what you mean by easyer to insure. im only 18 (no NCB) and my 90 truck cab is £1800 fully comp. and its on a Q plate. i just rang my one stop insurance shop who sorted it. so im not sure what its like if you go to direct line etc.

and lets not forget that an SJ is waay cheaper to buy in the first place. and if you trash it  (most likely rolled  :lol: ) then another one is cheap enough.

all said though im a land rover guy, and it sounds weird but i cant say i want anything else 4x4 wise. its not snobbery or jealousy, its just a certain brittishness in me that makes me able to love somthing that is often so flawed.
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2007, 01:17:42 »
Yeh but face it most sj drivers are chavs tommo will back me up n that lol

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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2007, 09:12:06 »
well no ones said it yet so i will,

SUZUKI VITARA

i have one,use it every day for work as a support unit,then playing off road at week ends

very easy to drive,comfy and are pretty quick,mine with 31s will happily sit on the motor way 70mph,will go further if you wish :oops:  8)

i just drove to the swiss alps in mine,got back thursday and had no probs with at all,

pretty good off road,parts are real easy to get hold of and insurance is cheap cos its 1.6

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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2007, 09:36:37 »
Yep i agree with Wrecker.I use my vitara as my only transport including greenlaning and pay & play day's..quiet comfy good on motorways

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2007, 10:40:43 »
Yep I agrre with Gav, get yourself a Vitara, good value for money, good on a long drive and bloody brill off road. Plus cheap to insure and lots of mods available.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2007, 11:02:38 »
it should be anything other than a landrover, if you have any scence  :lol:
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2007, 11:16:40 »
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Yeh but face it most sj drivers are chavs tommo will back me up n that lol


yeah but i wasnt gonna say that! its true though they are the corsa of the 4x4 world.
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2007, 11:18:16 »
Corsa, more like NOVA

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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2007, 11:42:21 »
ahh well the corsa is the new nova! and besides, novas were alright till chavs got their hands on em!
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2007, 17:16:52 »
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Yeh but face it most sj drivers are chavs tommo will back me up n that lol


yeah i must be a chav then with death metal, punk, n stuff like that coming from the speakers  8)

the main reason i hav a sj is cos i cant afford a swb y60 8)
would a midget fall over doing the limbo???

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2007, 17:18:43 »
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it should be anything other than a landrover, if you have any scence  :lol:


i second that . . . land rovers are like the silver hatchback of 4x4s thants how common they are
would a midget fall over doing the limbo???

 






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