Headlights?

[Mr Alford]

i need to buy new headlights for mine as mine are cracked and one side the brackets have snapped so it wobbles

i hev 100watt halogen bulbs in there at the moment but they dont seem to be that great altho they are 100 times better than standard

are theyre any uprated headlights i can buy or am i going to have to steer down the hid route which i was gonna do eventually anyway

does anyone have any experience of this

just in case moshio v8 boy says anything no i dont want extra spotlights i just want driving lamps coming from my headlights

[ben_haynes]

just in case moshio v8 boy says anything no i dont want extra spotlights i just want driving lamps coming from my headlights

HA HA HA HA HA HA  :lol:

[mobi]

just in case moshio v8 boy says anything no i dont want extra spotlights i just want driving lamps coming from my headlights

HA HA HA HA HA HA  :lol:

lmfao :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


how about 300 lights, might work  :roll:

[ben_haynes]

they are still land rover lights  :lol:

he wants better :roll:

[Range Rover Blues]

I've seen a conversion somewhere to put 7" round lamps in there.

TBH though 100 watt lamps can be a waste of money, plus they aren't legal.  The extra current drawn can cause power losses across other joints in thw wiring loom, best way to get the proper light out of them is to fit relays just behind each lamp.

Another controversial fitment is HID.  Currently about £50 a set to retro fit you wil get about 300% lilght output for only 35 watts.

[Mr Alford]

I've seen a conversion somewhere to put 7" round lamps in there.

TBH though 100 watt lamps can be a waste of money, plus they aren't legal.  The extra current drawn can cause power losses across other joints in thw wiring loom, best way to get the proper light out of them is to fit relays just behind each lamp.

Another controversial fitment is HID.  Currently about £50 a set to retro fit you wil get about 300% lilght output for only 35 watts.

looks like hid's it is then


these are the best and cheapest ones ive seen with hi and lo beam as i want both

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BI-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H4-6000K-HI-LO-DUAL-BEAMS_W0QQitemZ170181242765QQihZ007QQcategoryZ28644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[andygod]

Great link and exellent product, I'm going to buy some, any idea which lamps fit a 200 Discovery as I can't find the info on the list.

[Evilgoat]

Just totally redid the wiring on mine and they are a lot better just for that. Having uprated all the harnesses now they should be good for 100W bulbs easilly now. Might have to get some later.

Been having silly problems and dim lights for months, plus all the excess wiring from the provious owner made it a real pig to change the bulb on one side. All nice and clean now, nice simple wiring and once you know what you are after its a simple job.

You can pick the wires for the headlamps up in the loom on the drivers side, relays mount hapilly on the back of the support for the expantion tank and a new fusebox and splitter on the wing. In theory I'm good for almost 200W per light unit ;)

WIll get pics and wiring diagrams if people are interested.

[Mr Alford]

Great link and exellent product, I'm going to buy some, any idea which lamps fit a 200 Discovery as I can't find the info on the list.

land rovers use H4 bulbs

[Budgie]

Great link and exellent product, I'm going to buy some, any idea which lamps fit a 200 Discovery as I can't find the info on the list.

Make sure you're happy with the cost of the postage!!

[thermidorthelobster]

Halfords upgraded ones.  About 25 quid a pair but much, much brighter and an even beam pattern.  Far cheaper than HID.

[andygod]

Just had a look again, the first time I looked I missed the £35.00 postage and the fact that they’re from China. I think I'll look else ware.

[Disco Matt]

I've been running a pair of those ice blue ones on mine for a while now - definitely gives a better light output for a given wattage. I can't really explain it scientifically but they somehow seem crisper and allow you to see more.

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

think u can get 200 series headlights second hand for 12 quid instead of 40 quid new. as for hid conversion 100 quid from motorworld so i guess ebay comes up good.

[Evilgoat]

*sigh*

HIDs have special legal requirements. also bear in mind at close to £80 a pop you are NOT gonna get high quality units for £100. Hell I'd doubt they would even fall into the low quality catagory. Last few months I've had hell with cheap imported chineese kit and I have to say, avoid like the pl;ague. Yes its cheap, but so far, without rule its crap.

What you'll likeley get is high power, low quality Halogen bulbs with a blue tint that will last a few weeks.

HID bulbs use a good few KV to run, NOT 12V, that means they have high voltage ballasts to go with them. Thye also must automatically adjust height etc to be legal. This means they can never ever be a drop in replacement even ignoring the self leveling aspect.

Then you are looking at £80 a pop for HID bulbs, somewhat cheaper if they are bundled, so we'll call it £80 for both, then the ballasts, fair price would be about £45/50 a pop for cheap knock offs. So the price does not work already.

Also, pretty much everyone you blind will think you are a complete goit, right up till you blind a traffic cop with them.

Mentalmoshiov12crystalmethwhatever does actually have a valid point in this case, get new light units that arent full of mud and crap and you'll be fine. Replacing the LR wiring will help too as will cleaning the contacts on connectors and re-earthing the lamp connector somewhere closer than the eaxpansion tank.

http://www.evilgoat.org/pics/rewire/ has pics of my new looms.

[Mr Alford]

i have new headlights already as stated the unit itself is made by bosch and is not an imitation as for the bulbs well see, im going to try the kit and wire it up and see how i get on then ill let u know

[andrew2986]

Hi guys,
Ive been running HID in my headlights for a while. my original set were from HIDS4U and were quite expensive (around £200 about two years ago) they have been very reliable.
I took allot of care in setting them up and they are aimed a little lower than say standard headlights,
Ive just used 2 pairs of the Chinese H3 hid units for my roof bar, only cost .99p each plus £35 postage (both pairs totaled  less than £80.00)
Ive not had any problems dazzling other drivers.
they give an amazing quality of light, the roof bar is quite amazing on the lanes.

Andy

[piggysteve]

Hi went laning with Andy at the weekend, his lights are the best I've seen and as they are well set up don't dazzle when behind.

Steve

[Mr Alford]

Hi guys,
Ive been running HID in my headlights for a while. my original set were from HIDS4U and were quite expensive (around £200 about two years ago) they have been very reliable.
I took allot of care in setting them up and they are aimed a little lower than say standard headlights,
Ive just used 2 pairs of the Chinese H3 hid units for my roof bar, only cost .99p each plus £35 postage (both pairs totaled  less than £80.00)
Ive not had any problems dazzling other drivers.
they give an amazing quality of light, the roof bar is quite amazing on the lanes.

Andy

any pictures of the setup id love to see that??

[andrew2986]

Hiya,

they're not great photos, but they give you an idea.
the little boxes on the lightbar are little rs components cases that Ive adapted to house the Ballast units and U bolted to the lightbar.
I didn't like them at first and it is a work in progress, but I don't notice the boxes now.
The KC's on the front bumper are big enough to hold the Ballasts in the back of them (bit of luck really)
The last photo is courtesy of sternyboy and The Kent Massive. and shows the roof lights in use when I was out with them before christmas.

Andy

[Mr Alford]

thanks buddy u got any pics of the wiring are the little boxes behind the lights are they the hid pack thingy?

[andrew2986]

Will try and sort out some pics of the wiring in he next few days,
And yup, the HID packs are in the little boxes on the bar, the cable from the pack isn't all that long.
I used a black mastic glue stuff called tiger seal to cement some 11mm conduit up the side of the windscreen, and into the light bar. (its a guardian one and is brill) I wired it all internally in the light bar (pig of a job).
switching wise, I put another rear fog light switch on the instrument binnacle which adds them to the main beam (or Not), and also added two front fog light switches next to the cruise control switch which can turn them on individually if the side lights are on.

Andy

PS I used Kc's as there tough as old boots, and you can change the lenses if you want, running 4 x flood lenses at the mo, works for me. handy if going through deep water and your headlights go under !!

[Mr Alford]

great tips thankyou buddy look forward to the pics