High lifts

[karlo]

Can you tell the difference between a highlift/jackall and a copy/farm jack?

[Guardian.]

the prices, they are all farm jacks, just some are called by their brand name.

[karlo]

I've seen the price difference Spence but this one isn't new and he carn't say for sure its genuine and i've not had a good look at a genuine one to know the difference?

[Steven]

I have a question... do all accessories fit both jackall and copys?

[datalas]

There are (or at least can be) differences in construction,  some are cast steel others are rolled.

IIRC correctly the hi-lift is rolled steel and is less likely to shatter etc..

personally I view it as safety equipment (ever had a car land on you, it's not fun) and hence worth the extra money to get the "proper" one.  Other views may vary.

[karlo]

personally I view it as safety equipment (ever had a car land on you, it's not fun) and hence worth the extra money to get the "proper" one.  Other views may vary.

I agree, I've been offered one at the right price but the guy doesn't know if its a genuine high lift or a copy/cheapo.

I'm having a look later and I know a lot of peeps use them.

[Terranosaurus]

My Jackall has it stamped into the metal somewhere can't remember but know it has as thats how I know what it is.

[karlo]

Excellent I've been told that Hi-Lifts are stamped as well?

[Wolfie]

Was just about to suggest looking for identifying marks on it. My Hi Lift is here next to me at the moment and it doesn't actually say "Hi Lift" on it anywhere, but it does have "ORDER PARTS FROM BOX 228 BLOOMFIELD IND 47424 USA" cast into the body. Genuine jacks should also have a number of instruction stickers on them as illustrated in the instruction manual http://www.hi-lift.com/instructions/jack_instructions.pdf .

Of course the other way of identifying whether its a genuine jack or a cheap copy is to try using it. On the rare occasions that I have been near a copy, the rack has bananad as soon as any weight has been applied.

[clbarclay]

A new one should have a sticker on it containing this logo.

There a a number of details in the design that can give an unbranded hilift or jackall away, though I don't claim to be that much of an anorak.

Genuine Hi Lifts can come in either an 'all cast' construction or a cast/steel, though that is kind of miss leading as the all cast version still has some steel components.

[rollazuki]

Theyre all the same......






















All of em would break your arm or fracture your cheekbone as soon as look at you!!

[richo]

Or fall out your truck on to your foot and bloody hurt.

[karlo]

Well it wasn't branded and has had some use but seemed quite well made and straight not bent the ladder is in extremely good condition and had been used on a bobtail rangie with a pug 505 diesel lump in it, so for the price i can use it to extract the tree stump in the back garden at least.


Thanks for the info guys!

[Lincs niva]

Mine is of the HI'LIFT brand only it doesnt have a sticker on it..Well it did but it came off with the packaging

Cheers Gav

[Skywalker]

Theyre all the same......

To look at thats probably true, but having used Jackall's, Farm Jacks and a Hi-Lift ................. I sold my Jackall and bought a High Lift ......... it is  just soooooooooo .........  much easier to use  :roll: .............  :doh: ............ OK mebbe it's an age thing ....... but I ain't swapping back  ;)

Dave

[Freelander1980]

Hi-lift all the way, for what i use it for within motorsports safety area, they are the strongest

[Boggert]

Not knowing anything about there... are these ok??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nielson-Farm-Jack-hi-lift-jack-48-3000kg_W0QQitemZ220123855340QQihZ012QQcategoryZ82529QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

[Wolfie]

Theyre all the same......

All of em would break your arm or fracture your cheekbone as soon as look at you!!

Too true. Never underestimate the things, I got off lightly when mine went for me.

Learn as much as you can about how to use it in controlled conditions so that when you need to use it in anger you will know what you're doing.

A good site for information, including a picture of an out of control handle, is at http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/ in the "learn with David" part.

Not knowing anything about there... are these ok??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nielson-Farm-Jack-hi-lift-jack-48-3000kg_W0QQitemZ220123855340QQihZ012QQcategoryZ82529QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

looking at the price of postage, I'd prefer to go for a genuine Hi Lift from Paddocks http://www.paddockspares.com/sp/category/OFF_ROAD/subcategory/Jacks/searchbox2/1__Hi-Lift.html particularly if there are a few other bits you need to get to the free delivery price.

[Disco Matt]

I'd second the comment about making sure you know how to use it before heading out - I've only used mine to shift tree trunks along the ground (not all that dangerous as if it slipped the trunk just wouldn't move - was trying to swing them around to get a tow rope onto them).

I have a Jackall and it seems fine - only minor snag was that as supplied the handle wouldn't come away from the upright position without a lot of heaving (far too much heaving to be safe if you had a load on it). A bit of work with a file cured that, now it stays upright but will come away with a firm pull. The jack isolators are worth having, and unless Jackall have changed it then you don't get a bung in the end of the handle. I made one by using a holesaw on an offcut of timber, sealing the "plug" of wood with PVA glue, and then gently tapping it into the end of the handle.

[muddyjames]

I was sold a hi lift on here but once I got home I found a sticker saying farm jack. I very nearly sold it again as I thought it was no use to me and in the way but then it saved my bacon in a BIG way once and now I have found out how to mend punctures with it too I am keeping it and fits lovely behind the front seats of the disco.

I dont care what make it is, it saved my bacon so to me that has used its monies worth and from now on it is free to use!

Can take photos of it if needs to be.

[freeagent]

I had a Jackall, which was in my old 110 when it was stolen... I bought a genuine high-lift to replace it but I prefered the Jackall... If i had a spare £40 i'd bin the high-lift and get another Jackall...

As both Jackall and High-Lift can be bought brand new from Paddocks for about £40 is it realy worth messing about with either crap Chinese copies or second-hand stuff...
these tools have the ability to seriously injure you if they fail, so I wouldn't risk a cheapie...

[Range Rover Blues]

Try using it, if it's a Jakall it will probably still work.  I had a couple of knock-off copies and the lifting pins in the mechanism were just roll-pins which quickly bent.  On the Jakall they are steel pins, so the lift mechanism works smoothly even when it's been abused.

I'm not aware of any copies of the Hi-Lift :?

Colour is also a give-away.  If it's not red it's not a jakall, Hi-Lift can be red or black.

[crazymac]

I've always used the "farmjack" versions, which are red!!

the only problem I had was when I needed to replace the pins in the lifting mech (12 year old and worn out) I did eventually find them, then my jack was nicked

Replaced it with one of the same!

[redhand]

Not knowing anything about there... are these ok??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nielson-Farm-Jack-hi-lift-jack-48-3000kg_W0QQitemZ220123855340QQihZ012QQcategoryZ82529QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

I brought a copy off ebay branded as a Samson and they are crap. as said the pins bend and when you try to lower it. instead of a controlled lower it just let go and the 110 dropped straight to the floor. While I was holding onto the handle. :x not reccomended. if you want one buy a Hi-lift off Paddocks.