the price of gordon browns fuel

[jamesey]

my question is what are your thoughts of gordon brown :troll: with all his tax hikes not just on road fuel but on everything gas, electric, beer , fags , wages , he takes everything off us ill never be a rich man in this over run country :(


Up the revolotion my brothers and sisters up the motorist but more than anything UP THE GOVERNMENT

thieving <edit> the lot of them.
its time we united and stopped this theft as fuel is cheap its the 70% tax that hoiks it up

[fezzy192]

completley agree with you
i went to fill up with gas the other day and its now 56.9
before long our whole lives will be a big rip off  :twisted:

[kizz81]

what i am failing to understand is just where this money is going, i sit at school in classrooms with barely any paint on the walls and where half the lights dont work, and the resurfaced the road just around the corner less than a year ago and now its falling apart made from such cheap materials :shock:

gas has gone up somthing like 26% in the midlands :shock:

[electricbluebadger]

Dont forget tax has to come from somewhere and although Im no fan of taxation as im running on veg oil Im much much happier to have high tax on fuel rather than have the income tax levels seen in places like germany... that would cripple me...

eg.....

In addition to the personal taxation rate of up to 42%. There is also a "solidarity surcharge" of 5.5%, which contributes to the costs of reintegration of the country. The corporate tax rate is being reduced to 25%. and additional provincial taxes may be levied but these are apparently due to be abolished but federal tax increased to balance..
 

In addition to personal income tax, there are a large number of different types of tax in Germany including sales taxes, automobile tax, inheritance tax, property tax and church tax.
Value Added Tax is payable at 16% on most purchases, and at a reduced rate of 7% on some items such as food and books. Additional sales taxes are payable on a number of products including alcohol and tobacco, tea and coffee and gasoline.
Residents who are officially affiliated with one of Germany's established churches are required to pay a church tax of around 8% of their salary. Without such an affiliation, it may not be possible to use the church for services such as marriage, baptism or burial.  :shock:

Seems you are pretty much screwed wherever you live unless you can afford a nice tax haven... maybe we could declare LRBoards an internet country (similar to an internet only company) declare ourselves a tax haven and screw the UK :)

and as for fuel dont forget as well oil has now gone to over $100 a barrell :O, way up on what it has been...... still doesnt totally explain Chievely services low sulphur crap being £1.16 a litre tother day 

Cheers Steve

[The Smiths]

We have most of those taxes - they are just hidden

[Disco Matt]

Sad to say, the international system is very strongly rigged against setting up your own state. I remember seeing a TV programme where a comedian tried to set one up in his flat. He went through all the paperwork, did it all by the book, but the UN reaction was along the lines of "Eh? Erm, you can't do that"!

I vote we get Mud Club recognised as a religion, then claim that high fuel costs and closing greenlanes are an infringement to our freedom to worship... :lol:

[electricbluebadger]

We have most of those taxes - they are just hidden

:) beleive me if we ever get a 'church tax' at 8% watch this space...as an atheist I couldnt give a stuff and they are just as welcome to stick me in a wheelie bin when i shuffle off the mortal coil :) LMAO

Cheers Steve

[discowoman]

What gets me is they are crying about oil being $100 a barrel, now correct me if im wrong but a barrel is 56 gallons...which is 254.8 litres, and the dollar is virtually $2 to £1 so for £50 you get 255 (rounded up) litres of oil which works out to 19p a litre  - OK i know they have to 'refine it' but the other thing that pees me off is that Petrol has more treatment than diesel BUT diesel is more expensive  :-k

[Disco Matt]

A news report yesterday said that more diesel than petrol cars were sold last year. That wouldn't have anything to do with the price being hiked up, would it... 

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Old Gollum Brown is a <edit>! Him and all his cronies! <edit>, the lot of them!

[muddyjames]

We have most of those taxes - they are just hidden

:) beleive me if we ever get a 'church tax' at 8% watch this space...as an atheist I couldnt give a stuff and they are just as welcome to stick me in a wheelie bin when i shuffle off the mortal coil :) LMAO

Cheers Steve

I love that Steve and yes, I would be happy to have that done to me too. Would be a bit more on home turf with me though as I am a bin man :LOL:

[jamesey]

its time we showed this bunch of crooks who is in charge :twisted: :twisted:
how come he gets in every year

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

get clarkson in i say  :dance: hes hardly gonna want high fuel bills  for a lambo v10 and merc supercharged v8 to run

NEW LABOUR NEW BRITAIN yeah labour on us more like. u mfcaob

[Range Rover Blues]

Before these useless gits got into power I had a decnt job and earned enough to pay income tax.  Now I don't.  Fuel tax is an unfair tax on the lower income households, but not half as much as the ownership tax, sorry road fund licence, for a car I can't afford to drive.

[richo]

Tax ,tax and more tax soon you will be taxed for post on a forum.
Why do we put up with it?
Come polling day i will be voting them out we need a change of govenment.Some one who is going to run the country for us not against us.

[freelanderpx54]

The problem is who? The liberals will tax our vehicles at a £1000 a year and make the price of fuel prohibitive. The Cons ervatives will rehash labour policies and we will end up with a version of the Thatcher years. Labour can't get in again (we hope) so to go back to my original question Who?

Which political party is going to commit political suicide by bringing in policies that the majority want?
We all want a control on immigration, not the easy targets but a proper control.
We all want to rid the country of illegals, they are helping dilute the minimum wage as they will take whatever is offered.
We all want a decent Health Service - but is this at the cost of not treating smokers/drinkers/fat people - don't forget, it doesn't take much to make you medically obese.
We all want a decent Armed force - how do we pay for it?

But best of all, if this is the United Kingdom, why is it that the Welsh and Scots get free prescriptions and their Council Tax charges capped but those of us living in England still have to pay

[jamesey]

nice thoughts everyone , somthing will kick off thats for sure , hes set to put the fuel up again ive heard today :( :'( :| :( :'( :

[Tommo]

nice thoughts everyone , somthing will kick off thats for sure , hes set to put the fuel up again ive heard today :( :'( :| :( :'( :

He just cant resist being a bell end can he???


He has his reasons but it angers me!!!

[Evilgoat]

I do get bored about all these that turn round and say, the tax has to come from somewhere (no this isnt aimed at you mr Mod :) )

But look, taxed have gone up signifivcantly, yes we dont get some of the creative taxes other places get  but we get a lot of crafty stealth taxes others dont.

And what do we get? The road network is crumbling, councils cut corners doing repairs etc and yet still have to ask for more money. The NHS is fast becoomming a joke, as is our education systems. Meanwhile companies like Capita and co are paid billions to provide projects that are ill advidsed and dont work. And the waste of money on things we just DONT want.

Milennium dome springs to mind. O2 must be laughing over that. ID cards, Millions wasted on consultation and now the main players are walking away saying its unworkable, but they'll try, and itll fail. How many Million into Northern Rock? Or what about 2012, 2 years in and the budget has already doubled!

Thats just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, there are hundreds more.

[CaptainColourful]

I do get bored about all these that turn round and say, the tax has to come from somewhere (no this isnt aimed at you mr Mod :) )

But look, taxed have gone up signifivcantly, yes we dont get some of the creative taxes other places get  but we get a lot of crafty stealth taxes others dont.

And what do we get? The road network is crumbling, councils cut corners doing repairs etc and yet still have to ask for more money. The NHS is fast becoomming a joke, as is our education systems. Meanwhile companies like Capita and co are paid billions to provide projects that are ill advidsed and dont work. And the waste of money on things we just DONT want.

Milennium dome springs to mind. O2 must be laughing over that. ID cards, Millions wasted on consultation and now the main players are walking away saying its unworkable, but they'll try, and itll fail. How many Million into Northern Rock? Or what about 2012, 2 years in and the budget has already doubled!

Thats just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, there are hundreds more.

I agree.

How is it that inflation is supposed to be only around 2.5% ???

They base their arguement on a massive "shopping trolley" full of stuff like PCs, sat navs,digital cameras, large screen TVs etc... all of which have massively reduced in price over the last year or so ... as every new-fangled gizmo does once it's mass produced.... the normal day to day items in the trolley are increasing day by day.... but the average cost of the trolley doesn't increase by the same amount.

I reckon real inflation is around 10-12% at least... any thoughts on this theory ? 


End of rant, time to hit the sack !

[Range Rover Blues]

That's a good point, like many things on which the Gov'ts performance is measured the way in which inflation is done has been chaged, like you say more games boys and chavtastic tat and less real things like food and houses.

[paulhumphries]

The old saying of "Charity begins at home"  is quite relevant when you look at how much the UK gives in foreign aid etc.
The UK is the second biggest contributer in the world and from what I read even gives more then the whole of the US !
Japan is accepting that it cann't afford to give as much and publically announced it will be cutting what it gives - at same time the UK announced it's increasing it's amount  :roll:
On the recent trip to India Mr Brown announced £825 million is going to be given to help Indian education when the UK schools are stuggling for funds.
http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page14329.asp

Where do you think all this overseas aid that is given away by the governement, without the UK public have any say, comes from ?

I'm not saying we shouldn't help others - but not to the detriment of ourselves.
If we are suffering due to higher prices then that should mean we (as a country) cann't give as much to others - not more !


Paul Humphries

[V8MoneyPit]

We need to figure out a country that the UK is dishing out money to, that also has a massive transfer of population to the UK...... It'll be a lovely country to live in  :lol:

The only tax that we have that is still on par with other countries is VAT. In fact we still have one of the lowest rates in europe. But that's where it ends.... everything else is taxed beyond belief.

If you take a potato as an example..... there is tax on the price of the seed, the equipment to plant it and the fuel for that equipment. The farmer is then taxed on his earnings for selling the potato. Then we pay tax indirectly for the transport of it in fuel, vehicle purchase, etc. We are even indirectly paying for the tax the truck driver has to pay on his salary! Then we pay tax on the salary we earn to pay for it, the fuel we use to get it and even the bag we buy to carry it! Then we pay more tax on the energy we use to cook it, the pot we cook it in and the water supply to boil it in!

Maybe an extreme and inaccurate example, but you get my drift  :lol:

[Range Rover Blues]

I'm just going through my book for the last 2 years.  This time last year DERV was 89.9 p/l and it stayed at around that level most of the summer, certainly 'till the holidays.  So what's gone on in the last 3 months?

[V8MoneyPit]

I'm just going through my book for the last 2 years.  This time last year DERV was 89.9 p/l and it stayed at around that level most of the summer, certainly 'till the holidays.  So what's gone on in the last 3 months?

Did you notice how it hung about at just under the £ for ages? Then once it broke that barrier it has rocketed up to £1.10? Of course, the next barrier is £2.  :roll:

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

how come in 2001 was it we striked over fuel prices and now every seems to moan and thats it? :-k

[Range Rover Blues]

Because the fuel protests achieved nothing except for the excuse to introduce more laws by which the gov't controls us.

[Boddle]

It would be so much easier if the were honest about TAXs. Just TAX us once on wages alone at say 40% or whatever stop all the other stupid thing like VAT and additional costs on Fuel(green tax which no relevance to being green).

[Boggert]

I'm all for Taxing.......






The rich that is, but how many here are rich...? not many of us. Do you think the rich in this country care about the fuel prices or the amount of RFL? yep they don't like it but they will pay it, it won't hurt their pocket as much as it will the normal hard working folks.

At the moment its a case of Tax anyone as much as they can get away with it.

[Red Defender]

Re: the price of gordon browns fuel - im sure i saw that coming out of the cows in the field next door !! :twisted: :twisted:


on another point - our tax on our income goes up to 20% in the next financial year, the 10% limit has been abolished acording to my accountant Girlfriend !