upgrading my 90

[extreme90]

:clap: :clap: :clap: i totally agree,you dont have to have a carlos fandango 90 to have fun!!! and thats what its all about,havin loadsa fun.Dont get  lockers unless you want to start smashing driveshafts dont spend loadsa £££ on a winch unless you are Ed Cobley, just a few bits and bats and a really good toolkit (after all its a landy).......oh,and an X-brake so you can use the hand brake when you are on a hill,and these people that say that "its not adjusted right" is a load of cods wallop,I have to re-adjust mine every time I come back from laning!!!! and im sure others do as well :D

all good
until you get fed up of breaking things
i broke 1 shaft
i wasnt going to break another
loose out on a day playing cos of a silly thing like that  :roll:

end o day i do agree, you dont need to have all the kit to have fun
i had more fun when i had grizzlys and no lockeres....but in a way id rather not go there again, 3rd gear flat out to get up rutted hills, smashing into trees, generally abusing the truck to do a simple thing
now its 1st gear and potter up at  just above tick over, no stress on any part of the truck, no nackerd bush's no dented panels, no broken lights  :roll:

you have to see things from two points of view

[BK]

I agree with the kinetic rope bit, they are lethal if you dont know how to use them Ive got one and I think ive used it once to pull a 110 out of a bog at langdale quest,it popped it out like a champagne cork from a bottle,I wouldnt like to have been in the way if it came off!!!!.As far as mods go it depends on how deep your pocket is really and what u do with the motor,but the biggest thing is try and make it as safe and reliable (ish) as poss,so really its up to you :D

[davidlandy]

I managed to get a good video of a kinteic rope recovery not going to plan ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtuO-Mh9Lg

the damage done was with the rope only, and no shackle.

I wouldnt have one.

[j.stobart]

ok ok points taken [Edited]!! lol I just got fed up of getting stuck when cross axled when a little more articulataion would have seen me through, besides which the suspension when I bought it was pretty much knackered anyway, needed new rar shockers which were rotten and seized, the springs on the back were well very tired, and weight in the back and it was on its knees, the front springs weren't much better, so it needed replacing. and for a few quid extra, I could get a better set up than standard and with a bit of luck overcome some of the obstacles etc that got me stuck. I also like to see them sit higher, sound better, and grip harder. The tyres were almost failable on its MOT (but he passed it so long as I got them changed sharpish) and rather than pay silly BFG Mud money to shred em to bits in off roading play days, I got what I consider to be the best tread pattern available at a fraction of the Simex price!! So I wouldn't say I have exactly gone over board, haven't fitted the radius arms, I have simply "upgraded" my pretty standard 90. The sumo bars are a must in my eyes as even with a steering guard fitted, I have managed to total 6 standard ones. So thats my argument.  :P

[davidlandy]

ok ok points taken [Edited]!! lol I just got fed up of getting stuck when cross axled when a little more articulataion would have seen me through,

a diff locker would be more effective for cross axle situations

[j.stobart]

yeah but i would still have had to replace my suspension!! so maybe difflockers can come when I get the money from the next land rover i break. and usually most of the situations I have been stuck in are because of lack of articulation, shockers at end of range, and springs retaining axle, a little more give with better tyres and i reckon i would have been sorted.

[Tommo]

All this condemnation of kinetic ropes please dont forget that when used correctly they do the job fantastically. If you make sure the shackles are on somwhere strong and everone is away from the scene then you cant beat em.

Without kinetics mr stobart might still be at tong now!!! although i doubt it lol.

[j.stobart]

I'll second that :clap:

[BK]

them x-springs are supposed to be good gear,have a look,your landy sounds like mine was when i  first got it,stuff worn out,join the club,talkin of tong, anybody goin on the 3rd feb?we all are!!!!! :dance: :dance:

[TDi90]

I managed to get a good video of a kinteic rope recovery not going to plan ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtuO-Mh9Lg

the damage done was with the rope only, and no shackle.

I wouldnt have one.

sorry mate, of course it will snap with a run up like that  :shock:
1-2 metres is ample run up... but that was about 5 :shock: :?
no wonder it snapped. no sympathy im afraid  :-#
 [-X

i have one, blinding rope, really useful for the RIGHT situation.
wouildnt be without one because in the right hands they are brill.
Rob

[anaxemurderer]

Think that video should be supplied with ever kinetic rope sold. Seen this happen more times than it should, but they are an amazing piece of kit.

As far as your mods go i would take it slower. Get a few things, see what happens and see if they need changing or adding too. If they don't work at least you haven't wasted too much money (you can always flog them on eblag).

How are you bending that many steering bars!

Nick

winch is not a bad idea, but it doesn't suit everyone. Personally i find winching boring as hell, so i try to avoid it (will get one eventually though!)

[davidlandy]

I managed to get a good video of a kinteic rope recovery not going to plan ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtuO-Mh9Lg

the damage done was with the rope only, and no shackle.

I wouldnt have one.

sorry mate, of course it will snap with a run up like that  :shock:
1-2 metres is ample run up... but that was about 5 :shock: :?
no wonder it snapped. no sympathy im afraid  :-#
 [-X

i have one, blinding rope, really useful for the RIGHT situation.
wouildnt be without one because in the right hands they are brill.
Rob

think you have hit the nail on the head TDi90 - its that of instruction and training.  Most of have learned by experience of our own actions and watching others with no formal training in recovery techiques. Some are fortunate to learn without damage or injury, others are not as fortunate.

.........and what about the instructions provided with these kinetic ropes on their proper use ?  or the lack of!

[TDi90]

.........and what about the instructions provided with these kinetic ropes on their proper use ?  or the lack of!

your right david. seeing what can happen with people who dont know how to use them  =; :shock: [-X
its scary.

[Tommo]

I dunno, i class it as common sense, big stretchey rope pulled tense by big landy, what do you expect to happen if you stick it on a rusty mounting????

[BK]

BANG!!!! [-X

[davidlandy]

on the video - there was no shackle or broken rusty bits flying around - the hole was made by the rope only.

[TDi90]

because of the stupidly long run up  :shock:
looks like pux's old motor?!  [-o<

[extreme90]

or, just forget the kinetic, which i dont have nor will ever own one ( i make this quite clear on challenges when they ask to see my kinetic rope  :roll:)
and get a winch, nothing worry about then, it even gets you out of the miether when your on your own  :lol:
coat...door.....gone....

[BK]

Less dangerous!!!!,and a good strap :D

[davidlandy]

absolutely!

[Tommo]

or, just forget the kinetic, which i dont have nor will ever own one ( i make this quite clear on challenges when they ask to see my kinetic rope  :roll:)
and get a winch, nothing worry about then, it even gets you out of the miether when your on your own  :lol:
coat...door.....gone....

i cant afford a winch bumper let alone a winch, so i keep a kinetic for those times when a strap just wont quite do the trick. Its easy to say a winch is far better, and so it should be for the money!!!

[jaws]

or save the money from not buyin the mods an buy an sj with decent tyres...no more getin stuck!

thought i'd fire it in coz you all know it's true!