Torchwood

[Evilgoat]

Was anyone else disapointed by the first of the new series.

Not a prude but 10 minutes in, while eating my dinner I did NOT need to see Jak shoving his toungue down another guys throat, I mean come on, lets at least get the story going first.

Was liek a Dr Who episode from the 80s with some random homosexual references thrown in to pretent it was an adult show :(

[Jake]

Sounds great
A gay version of Dr Who
Sounds like another reason to avoid tv
 :lol:

[datalas]

Doctor Ooooaaawhooaaooo get you!

[Disco Matt]

Well, there are two reasons to watch it...

Gwen
That Range Rover

(In that order!)

[carbore]

I reckon its set in Cardiff because they couldt afford the congestion charge for the Range Rover.

[Boggert]

Agreed ita a pile of pants...

[crazymac]

You'll never persuade my wife that its nothing short of brilliant! purely because of John Barrowman. She says he's a waste of a good man :shock:

Attached is a pic of her and my littleun after seeing him in Panto at Christmas

[muddyjames]

Sounds great
A gay version of Dr Who
Sounds like another reason to avoid tv
 :lol:

Ditto :lol:

I will keep my license money and spend it on veg oil for the disco :lol:

[daz-B]

i was so looking forward to the new series of Torchwood and then it all went gay 
Captian jacks gay
the aliens gay
and the bloke that called ianto ( the one that makes the tea and stuff ) hes gay to
on the plus side Toshiko's got really Hot, shes a babe.
why don't they go the all the way and paint the range rover pink and have a Teddy bears on the back seat 

the fight scene was good but would have been more funny if they would have had a bitch slap fight  :lol: :lol:

[Disco Matt]

I have to say that opening fight sequence was far too predictable (the kissing bit especially). Russell T Davies seems to have let his enthusiasm for having gay characters get between him and writing a good story. I'm not homophobic, but really feel he needs to stop going for the "shock" value of blokes kissing and get on with the story.

He's in danger of turning into a parody of Dafydd from Llandewi Brefi...

[datalas]

He's in danger of turning into a parody of Dafydd from Llandewi Brefi...

At least if he does this time around it might be funny  ;)

In all seriousness though, it's often been the "job" of science fiction to address contentious issues and hopefully make people reflect on their own particular thoughts.  Take Star Trek TOS for example,  the first interracial kiss on television, addressing genocide, treatment of prisoners etc etc.  Even if Star Trek has subsequently lost the plot and blame it all on aliens[1]

Sadly, one thing that people seem to have forgotten is that this particular issue has already been confronted and therefore doesn't need to be done to death anymore.  Personally I couldn't care if captain jack was straight, gay, bisexual, trisexual, omnisexual or had three knees.   Whilst it might be an integral part to his character it shouldn't need to be explained every five minutes.  Then again, neither does his being immortal, or a former time agent...

Hmm...  I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that it's perhaps not that he's gay that's the trouble, it's the fact that Torchwood just isn't very well written :(  The characters are so poorly defined that any of them that actually have a character trait which might make them remotely interesting has to prattle on about it for fear of them being upstaged by the extras.. or the props[2]


[1] you're gay?  it's because you used to be the other gender but now you've had a slug transplant, oooh woe is me... personally I preferred babylon 5's approach which was just to show two of the main characters (both women) waking up in the same bed and having a conversation as they got ready for duty, much more matter of fact...

[2] let's face it, in a warehouse battle with the little hamster like one, the other bloke chap and a palette, you'd be watching the palette as it has more personality.

[Smego]

doesn't get shown in my house I do not want my kids to see two fags kissing!
 :->

[Bush Tucker Man]

Take Star Trek TOS for example,  the first interracial kiss on television, addressing genocide, treatment of prisoners etc etc.  Even if Star Trek has subsequently lost the plot and blame it all on aliens


 it's because you used to be the other gender but now you've had a slug transplant, oooh woe is me... personally I preferred babylon 5's approach which was just to show two of the main characters (both women) waking up in the same bed and having a conversation as they got ready for duty, much more matter of fact...

I caught a bit of 'Deep Space Nine' the other day & Jadzia Dax(?) was kissing another previous 'host' rather passionately, said previous 'host' being female!

[datalas]

I caught a bit of 'Deep Space Nine' the other day & Jadzia Dax(?) was kissing another previous 'host' rather passionately, said previous 'host' being female!

Yup, that's the episode which apparently "dealt" with the issue of homosexuality, not sure how it did that, but hey ho :)

[Disco Matt]

I caught a bit of 'Deep Space Nine' the other day & Jadzia Dax(?) was kissing another previous 'host' rather passionately, said previous 'host' being female!

Yup, that's the episode which apparently "dealt" with the issue of homosexuality, not sure how it did that, but hey ho :)

Yup, always noticed that, particularly in US sci-fi stuff. Two women kissing is apparently fine, two blokes  [-X

(should perhaps mention that I'm straight!)

[datalas]

(should perhaps mention that I'm straight!)

Hehe,  I'm of the impression that it doesn't matter whether you're straight, gay, undecided or technically neither and am therefor refusing to comment :)

[Boggert]

I agree with Datalas it just a crap story line and not well written.

I like primeval.

[Krull]

I have not seen the program as i don't own a tv. however some of the views here are a bit out of sorts with the rest of site. group hug everyone.

[Sider]

doesn't get shown in my house I do not want my kids to see two fags kissing!
 :->

Good for you. If we had a decent government, they would revoke the amnesty on homosexuality, and send the lot to the stocks.

Pl-ease! If you have to have that kind of ideas, at least try to express them with a minimum of respect for the rest of the world. Would you object the same way if it was two women kissing? Or if it was a heterosexual couple?

Thankfully, we are not in the Victorian era anymore (although rumour has it that most of the era puritanism was pure fachade) and if someone's cup of tea is someone from their own gender, that's their problem.

I do agree that it is a bit over the top, but IMHO, that's more down to the lack of background on the characters than any kind of statement from the writer.

[datalas]

doesn't get shown in my house I do not want my kids to see two fags kissing!
 :->

I wasn't aware cigarettes had lips :-o  Proves what I know

[Krull]

I wasn't aware cigarettes had lips

me neither. must be an import or something from europe.

[EvilEd]

Erm, I just watch it and don't give a stuff about any crap involved... I choose not to watch the (IMHO) crap bits.

I guess it's like those that have to have a motive for records as well... I listen to them and either enjoy the sound or not.

Life's too short to get the hump about telly! Sky... well, that's a different story...

[datalas]

I wasn't aware cigarettes had lips

me neither. must be an import or something from europe.

Those continental chaps, whatever next ?

[Krull]

Sky .. well that's a different story

it is. it stops the moon crashing into the sea and us from floating off  :P

[EvilEd]

Sky .. well that's a different story

it is. it stops the moon crashing into the sea and us from floating off  :P

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