Wheels and tyres?

[Sabo]

I recently put a 2" lift on my 1986 110 CSW.  For general use I have old 235/85 R16 AT's.  When I go on Greenlaning/offroad I swap then for 265/75 R16 MT Macho greenway - very noisy and rubbish on tarmac in RAIN!  Might want to change permantly to one set of tyres and thinking of larger ones, any ideas?????

Shush - the wife is on the phone!

[L90OOK]

33x12.5/16 Kuhmo MT are a good mid range tyre.  Other than that fork out for some large BFG MT's, you will not be disappointed 

[electricbluebadger]

Not the cheapest but been running on 33x12.50x15 Goodyear MTRs, look spot on and dont cause any probs as long as your wheels have a suitable offset...





no issues in wet weather and very very good off road, they self clean far better than many off road tyres you come across.

Cheers Steve

[Muddy]

255/85 bfg mts are a very nice size, not too wide so you can actualy dig down and find traction rather than just flinging crap allover.

[L90OOK]

I had 255x85/16 on my 90 (Regal MT's) nice tyre & a good size

[Sabo]

Thanks for info, any ideas on prices and where to go to.
I take it that 33x12.5 = 33" high by 12.5" wide and 255/85 = 10" wide and 33" high.
does anyone have problems with wheel arche catching and obviously the speedo would need a few stickers on it!

cheers
Dave

The wife cought me out, loves the look of the Orange one but I don't like washing my car and I think these might make it a bit muddy - but I must compromise with the boss!

[L90OOK]

With 33"tyres your defender speedo will be reading approx 10% to slow...i.e. you will be going faster & further than speedo mileometer reading.
Try THESE for tyres.  Give them a call for best price  ;)

[electricbluebadger]

265 is 10" wide so 255 is almost....

255/85 x 15's are almost 31.5" high
255/85 x 16's are almost 32.5" high (oddly enough :) )

but yep admittedly It does need a wash a bit more than regular tyres :) but its worth it (thats 2 washes a year it now gets :)



Cheers Steve

[Tommo]

I recently put a 2" lift on my 1986 110 CSW.  For general use I have old 235/85 R16 AT's.  When I go on Greenlaning/offroad I swap then for 265/75 R16 MT Macho greenway - very noisy and rubbish on tarmac in RAIN!  Might want to change permantly to one set of tyres and thinking of larger ones, any ideas?????

Shush - the wife is on the phone!

haha, to me the macho's are road biased tyres!!! my mate runs them on his disco and they barely make any noise and are great in the wet, just not so good off road. try running a proper MT and you will find out what real road noise is! it doesnt bother me.

[drmike]

I can't agree about machos - I had a set on my bobtail and I regret not getting more when I got the 90 where I fitted diamonds. They work well on road and seem a very compromise off road. I quite agree they're not as good as some Simex etc. but then if you're looking at a compromise then I'd say the Macho was pretty damn good.

The best tyres I ever had were macho pattern from recip - quite a soft compound and they seemed to find grip where the diamonds don't but they were too small (coming off the disco) and had to go!

Mike

[sibbo90]

I recently put a 2" lift on my 1986 110 CSW.  For general use I have old 235/85 R16 AT's.  When I go on Greenlaning/offroad I swap then for 265/75 R16 MT Macho greenway - very noisy and rubbish on tarmac in RAIN!  Might want to change permantly to one set of tyres and thinking of larger ones, any ideas?????

Shush - the wife is on the phone!

I am running BFG MT 285 75 16, these are a tad shy 0f 33in tall and nice and wide, they fit nice on a defender with a 2in lift.

[crazymac]

I must say, I love the Macho's!!

I run them part time on the Disco 235/70.16 and they are brilliant off road and on! The only thing i'd say is they wear heavily!!

I've been on the Mway in mine at 75 ish in the absolute peeing rain! Had to do an emergency stop and while all around me was mayhem and spinning, I came to a complete and controlled stop and avoided the pile up!! Luckily the ones behind me avoided me as well :shock:

[anaxemurderer]

Yeah macho's are an excellent tyre, they grip well on a lot of surfaces and a remarkable good on the road (and relatively quiet). Normally run them on 90, put some colway mts on a little while ago and got a shock by the lack of grip on the road. As an all round you really can't beat them, i think i'd actually choose the yokohama version (not retreads) over a bfg mt, for general purpose of course.

DrMike what recips did you have, didn't know they did a macho pattern. I've got 3ds on my bobtail but they are a fair sight knarlier!

Nick

[drmike]

Which Yokohamas are they as I had a hunt about and couldn't find any in Macho pattern. I'm thinking I'll replace my Diamonds when I can afford it and I too would like to get some non remould tyres as I think my Diamonds are disappointing because the carcas walls are too stiff.

Well I don't have the recip tyres any more but I'm sure they were recip but this was3/4 years ago from some geezer in Malvern who did a very good price. They were also on 15" rims and I think thate xtra inch of rubber not rim helped.

What are the 3ds you refer to?

Mike

[SteveG]

265 is 10" wide so 255 is almost....

255/85 x 15's are almost 31.5" high
255/85 x 16's are almost 32.5" high (oddly enough :) )

255's are ~10" wide, it's 25.4mm to an inch. So 265's are ~10.5

255/85 16's are 33.06" tall, 255/85 15's are 32.06" tall - having said that tyres vary per manufacturer and BFG MT's sit 33.3" tall at this height and 10" wide on a 7" rim.

btw, another vote for 255/85 16 BFG Muds

Steve

[lambert]

We have just put one pair of Bfg mt and one pair of kl71's(only 2 in the country hence the Bfg) in 305/70/16 on 8 inch offender alloys onto a standard 110. They work out to be 33.1 tall and 12 inch wide. Makes it look odd. Have yet to get it muddy tho so can't comment on that yet.

[anaxemurderer]

Yokohama geolander mt+ is the tread pattern that macho,sahara and amazons are based on. They are not remoulds but are kind of difficult to get hold of in this country.

I have Recip Maxi 3Ds as my offroad set, look like this (about the best pic i have of the tread), they also do a Recip Trial which is basically a copy of mickey thompson baja claws (and a bit like macho's)

[anaxemurderer]

Also as i understood it the metric measurements (ie 235/85 r16 etc.) are measured to the carcass and doesn't include tread depth. I know that sounds abit petty but if you have deep treads, 15-20mm, its making a difference. Hence my 235/85r16 recip maxi 3ds which nominally are ~31.7" actually measure closer to 32.5". (also cause of manufacturing inaccuracy!)

[Sabo]

It's going to be difficult choosing, found Devon 4x4 do both type of tyres and the cheapest so far but I'm in no hurry, been told to calm down!
BUT
If any one would like to buy 5 off 265/75R16 Macho Greenway done about 1500 miles it might give me a chance, no what I mean!
I've got to try havn't I.

Dave
signing off to hide in a corner and sob.