AuthorTopic: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi  (Read 6899 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline bodgeitjo

  • Posts: 97
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« on: January 26, 2008, 16:27:12 »
hi guys and girls, just wondering what i would need to change / add to change from lt77 to r380. i have heard that the 300 tdi is a stronger box is this true?. thanx in advance.             jo
1989 110csw 200tdi                                                                                                                                      If it aint broke fix it till it is.

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 17:07:11 »
IIRC it was designed to handle more torque, so I guess it is stronger but more than that it's a much nicer box even when worn out.  IIRC it still has recognised weak spots though but if I could get one I'd fit it.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline Benjamin

  • Posts: 17
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Its about time tyres became available on the NHS..
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 18:28:37 »
As far as i know the lt uses cable speedo and the 380 is electronic. Other than that i think its a straght swap.

Offline andyb

  • Posts: 412
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Tilshead, Wiltshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 18:37:26 »
Yes pretty much straight swap. Make sure it is a Discovery gearbox and even the bell housing bolt pattern is the same....

...however, you will need to change over the speedo sender, R380 one is electronic as already noted. When you look at both LT77 and R380 side by side you will see that they both have all the mounting bolt holes so you can fit the LT77 mounting to the R380 and reuse your original gearbox cross member.

I've swapped LT77 into a Disco behind a 300Tdi and put an R380 behind a 200Tdi also in a Discovery. PM me if you want any help etc :)

Offline wizard

  • Posts: 1095
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Cardiff. In the land of our fathers, so i am told
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 18:46:46 »
You will also need to change the hand brake cable if using the drum on the R380 box as they have different fittings to the LT77.

wizard :twisted:

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 18:52:26 »
As far as i know the lt uses cable speedo and the 380 is electronic. Other than that i think its a straght swap.

Good point, what year is the Disco?chances are it's got the electronic sender on the LH chassis rail anyway, so it's just a matter of wing it up.  AFAIK the pulse/timing is the same on the R380 sender as the LT77 one.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline bodgeitjo

  • Posts: 97
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2008, 19:21:57 »
cheers guys thanx for your responses so far. hand brake no probs got both types in garage. its a 94 disco so not sure about wireing.
1989 110csw 200tdi                                                                                                                                      If it aint broke fix it till it is.

Offline Mr Alford

  • Posts: 298
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 20:09:22 »
hi guys and girls, just wondering what i would need to change / add to change from lt77 to r380. i have heard that the 300 tdi is a stronger box is this true?. thanx in advance.             jo

yes straight swap
James@plymouthoffroad.co.uk     The biggest club in the south west! As featured in Total Offroad this month!

Offline andyb

  • Posts: 412
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Tilshead, Wiltshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2008, 22:26:57 »
You will also need to change the hand brake cable if using the drum on the R380 box as they have different fittings to the LT77.

Yeah you're right. I changed over the handbrake and speedo bits when the box was on the floor. I links up with the handbrake lever that is already there, that end of things is the same.


Offline Evilgoat

  • Posts: 2786
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 20:05:34 »
Mine has an R380 I beleive. Gearleaver gaiter is a bit of a bodge though.

I must confess the the activities of the UK governments for the past couple of years have been watched with frank admiration and amazement by Lord Vetinari. Outright theft as a policy had never occured to him.

-- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

EX HK Police Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8TD
Audi S2 Avant 360bhp
Transit LWB 2.5di (The Shed)


Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 20:09:19 »
cheers guys thanx for your responses so far. hand brake no probs got both types in garage. its a 94 disco so not sure about wireing.

I'm pretty sure you have an electronic speedo then.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline Landynuts

  • Posts: 57
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 21:21:30 »
Don't forget to change the gear knob as reverse is on the opposite side.
Navara 09 Outlaw
Disco 90 200 TDi
Yamaha TDM900 (for when 4 wheels is 2 to many)
Suzuki GT250 project

Offline stuntman

  • Posts: 693
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 21:26:38 »
I wondered about this aswell, so is just a straight swap?

Drop old gearbox and transfer box swap in R380 and transfer box with new handbrake drum etc, and wire up speedo?

Is it that simple  :?
1989 3.5slti Mazda powered 110DC

Erm ... I've lost my keys darling ... again!

Offline wizard

  • Posts: 1095
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Cardiff. In the land of our fathers, so i am told
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 07:08:27 »
yep that about it. Mines been in for a few years now. Still got the original gear knob though...

wizard

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 11:35:12 »
yep that about it. Mines been in for a few years now. Still got the original gear knob though...

wizard

As an anti-theft device?
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline stuntman

  • Posts: 693
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2008, 12:58:55 »
Okay so just to make REALLY sure the mechanical side is just a straight lt box out R380 with 200 tdi handbrake in? The rest is just wiring up etc.

What about the transfer box? is the 300 series the same as a 200 series etc? I'm really sorry for asking for idiots guides to this but I'm also in the position that my gearbox and transfer box are on the way out in my 200

Thanks in advance everyone

Andi K
1989 3.5slti Mazda powered 110DC

Erm ... I've lost my keys darling ... again!

 






SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal