Frontera 2.0l Sport V's Freelander Td4

[Tommo]

Our Brian James is 500KG empty and will carry 2,200Kg. Even so you won't find many cars that weigh less than 1,000kg and a family car will be around 1,200kg, perhaps more.

I think given an open choice it would be a 110 TDi, the extra wheelbase makes a difference with stability and the weight is certainly there, as is the grunt, but Joe was asking "given the choice between X & Y, which would you choose?", if I understand him correctly.

My personal choice for towing BIG things is my LSE, it has the same weight capacity as a 110, the same wheelbase  but it has more weight on the back end when empty which is important.

It's also got a hoofin' big V8 on LPG, uprated suspension with a monster rear ARB, that and the 108" wheelbase make it very stable, plus it has cruise.

you got one of them special vehicles ones??? ive only ever seen one!!! you got a pic of it side on?

See although it may have a V8 and an auto box to help the towing i know that i wouldnt half miss the extendable mirrors fitted to defenders!!!

[discowoman]

erm, what extendable mirrors fitted to defenders?
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gavindouglas.com/Land%2520Rover%252090%2520County%25202.5%2520petrol%2520blue.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.gavindouglas.com/Land%2520Rover%252090%2520County%25202.5%2520petrol%2520blue.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=246&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=Km2YyBa_gAAlGM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dland%2Brover%2B90%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enGB246GB248
Long link - click on piccy to make bigger  :oops:
Oh and this is his LSE
http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Range%20Rover%20Blues/gallery/LSE/0/95a4278173ad6af0022e27b07d3f75eb.JPG/

[EvilEd]

I had a caravan and I wasnt a hazard,I have a full HGV class one licence and I can drive anything on the road professionally as well!!! and I dont know whether you know,but there is a speed limit of 60mph for a car and caravan,just like all HGVs are limited to 56mph.But as far as the freelander is concerned you are just about right

Spot the smilies at the end of the statement  :roll: I used to drive tractors too! Still cuss them :)

[BK]

OK  :lol: I bit the line,just reel me in hook  line and sinker :lol: :lol:

[Tommo]

erm, what extendable mirrors fitted to defenders?
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gavindouglas.com/Land%2520Rover%252090%2520County%25202.5%2520petrol%2520blue.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.gavindouglas.com/Land%2520Rover%252090%2520County%25202.5%2520petrol%2520blue.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=246&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=Km2YyBa_gAAlGM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dland%2Brover%2B90%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enGB246GB248
Long link - click on piccy to make bigger  :oops:
Oh and this is his LSE
http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Range%20Rover%20Blues/gallery/LSE/0/95a4278173ad6af0022e27b07d3f75eb.JPG/

Ahh right, didnt know the LSE's were longer, i was thinking of them ones modified by some gun manufacturer or other that are extended wheelbse.

I didnt quite get the first link? Defender mirrors fold out to increase in width, very very usefull with wide trailers.

[Ja1983]

think horse box (similar weight)

...at the front is usually sat:

Defender110
Disco TDI
Daihatsu fourtrak - my recommendation as tow car
hilux
etc

as above, my choice would be the fourtrak, bits are a tad pricey, but all mine suffered from after heavy HEAVY beatings, was a front auto hub, and the front bumper fell off!

plenty of power, as good as the disco on fuel, and move faster than a nuns first curry once you`ve upped the fuel and boost a bit!

also cheap too!

[Range Rover Blues]

you got one of them special vehicles ones??? ive only ever seen one!!! you got a pic of it side on?

See although it may have a V8 and an auto box to help the towing i know that i wouldnt half miss the extendable mirrors fitted to defenders!!!

All the LSEs are factory cut and shut.  As few new panels were produced as possible and roughly 4,000 a year were built.  As for the other bits it was modyfied by a company called oblique engineering (who are no longer in business) and they fitted the TVR Chimera 500 engine, uprated ARBs and re-callibrated the EAS as well as tinkering with the 'box.  I've fitted Arnott GIII air springs which make it more progressive, and it's now on Britpart Cellular Dynamics, I found ProComps a bit too hard.

As for the mirrors, I just use a set of strap-ons (oh-err missus) when I've got the 'van on, but I don't need them with the car trailer.

the law says you need mirrors that extend beyond the width of the trailer body (which is a car) but cannot extend more than 200mm beyond the overall width of the trailer ;) so with a car trailer or horsebox they are optional.

[V8MoneyPit]

Freelander is 1800Kg towing weight. less 750 (for a good ally trailer, nearer 1000Kg for a "Solid" ones) and you may be able to tow a motorcycle on it :)

The TD4 Freelander has a towing capacity of 2000Kgs. Not sure where Parkers book of lies get there data from  :roll:

We tow a horse box or a flatbed with it, no problems. Tows very well. Horse box, plus two dog meats, sorry horses  :lol: come in at around 1500 kgs.

Took some scrap cast iron on the flatbed trailer with the 110 last year and the whole rig weighed in at just under 5 tonnes  :shock: It wasn't a pleasant trip  :lol:

A friend has a SWB Frontera and tows regularly. He does find it a bit thirsty when towing though. He now has gas fitted.

[Range Rover Blues]

Did you find yourself in low box when you were shifting 5 tonnes then :-.  that the reason the Disco/RRC/Defender are rated to tow so much more than a freebie.

[V8MoneyPit]

Did you find yourself in low box when you were shifting 5 tonnes then :-.  that the reason the Disco/RRC/Defender are rated to tow so much more than a freebie.

No, but it was..... err..... a little slow off the mark and anything above 40 was seriously scary  :shock: :lol:

[Tommo]

Freelander is 1800Kg towing weight. less 750 (for a good ally trailer, nearer 1000Kg for a "Solid" ones) and you may be able to tow a motorcycle on it :)

The TD4 Freelander has a towing capacity of 2000Kgs. Not sure where Parkers book of lies get there data from  :roll:

We tow a horse box or a flatbed with it, no problems. Tows very well. Horse box, plus two dog meats, sorry horses  :lol: come in at around 1500 kgs.

Took some scrap cast iron on the flatbed trailer with the 110 last year and the whole rig weighed in at just under 5 tonnes  :shock: It wasn't a pleasant trip  :lol:

A friend has a SWB Frontera and tows regularly. He does find it a bit thirsty when towing though. He now has gas fitted.

Horse box of me mums with 2 big ish horses comes in an about 3t i think, most horses weigh a ton is IIRC

[Range Rover Blues]

A shire horse is about a tonne, maybe a tad over, but a decent horsebox will be rated at around 3 tonnes I guess.

[Tommo]

When i bought my 110 a year or two back we went to fetch it on the ifor towing it with me mates disco. now this discos gearbox had been on its way out for a while and it had lost 2nd and 4th (unusual because 4th is direct drive which is normally the last to fail) so we picked it up from tadcaster and towed it back with only 1st 3rd and 5th. the motorway slip road was a nightmare. luckily the pump and turbo is wound right up but still a horrific experience!

Was a credit to the disco though, the transfer box probably needed replacing as well from all the high/low transitions we did!

[Range Rover Blues]

I'd have towed the Disco back with the 110 then :?

[Tommo]

yeah true but no tax test or insurance.