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Offline Jonathan M

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Question about WMIK wheels???
« on: February 06, 2008, 22:03:25 »
Bit of a geek question, but in the news footage & various other TV footage from Iraq & Afghanistan I've noticed that WMIK LR's don't seem to have standard Wolf type wheels fitted, they all appear to be fitted with multispoke alloys of some sort.

Out of sheer curiosity, why?



Watching the Sky 1 Ross Kemp in the 'stan programme I even noticed a couple of Wolf wheels being used as table legs in some FOB, presumably removed from a WMIK at some point?
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 14:58:51 »
Cant remember or even understand (its easier to perform BDR on a steel rim than it is on an alloy) why they were replaced but yes, they are some form of alloy or other - look quite cool as well,  Just cos there was a wolf wheel or 2 holding up a table doesnt make it a WMIK wheel - there are 'normal landrovers' about out there as well......  I'l have a shufty about at work and find out.....

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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 21:52:49 »
Ta, like I say, total geek question, but just stands out that all current images of WMIKS have these alloys fitted, while older images had standard wheels.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2008, 04:51:02 »
What's a WMIK?
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2008, 07:02:08 »
WMIK= Weapons Mount Installation Kit.
Alloys are literally to save weight - due to up-armouring/extra kit.

Standard - http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/B5C2355D-E2A7-471F-9399-A4EAC532B096/0/Page1landrover.JPG
WMIK - cant find one at the moment - but somone will
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2008, 17:29:44 »
Fair enough, must be pretty desperate to shed some weight  - can't be much weight saving between steels & alloys on a 16.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2008, 18:52:36 »
There is some, but also it lowers the 2nd moment of area quite consderably and that helps a lot with performance.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 21:12:10 »
Quote from: Range Rover Blues on February 10, 2008, 18:52:36
There is some, but also it lowers the 2nd moment of area quite consderably and that helps a lot with performance.

Rotating mass?
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 02:29:37 »
Quote from: Jonathan M on February 11, 2008, 21:12:10
Quote from: Range Rover Blues on February 10, 2008, 18:52:36
There is some, but also it lowers the 2nd moment of area quite consderably and that helps a lot with performance.

Rotating mass?

Yes, when it's rotating like the rim of a wheel it dramaticaly effects the acceleration, much more so than if the weight were just dropped in the boot.  It's why sports cars have alloys, rather than just because they look nice.  It also helps with unsprung weight which in turn effects traction, though I doubt the difference is significant having tried to lift a LR axle in the past.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 18:40:49 »
If i remenber , the reasons for the alloys is something to do with weight loss , ther are various other changes as well ,But the main reason was the WMIK wolves have been up armoured , specifically on the belly for some form of mine protection and the wheels was just one way to save wieght , I also understand that that spec wheel isn't available to the public .
Aparently this version of the WMIK is know as the E-WMIK the "E" standing for enhanced
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 20:59:06 »
Standard wolf rims are not up to the task required. The new WMIK II's have a alloy wheel fitted which are stronger.



With new style wheels.

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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 04:37:42 »
Quote from: littlepow on February 19, 2008, 20:59:06
Standard wolf rims are not up to the task required. The new WMIK II's have a alloy wheel fitted which are stronger.


That's interesting, they will be worth having when they become "available".
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 11:29:13 »
that might take a while to filter down. They are expensive and fairly rare at the moment.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 04:35:41 »
If they are stronger than a wolf steel they will stay expensive, but we've all seen trucks built where money wasn't any problem havn't we :?
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 12:28:58 »
they are used 1:to save weight 2:because of the BFG tyres that dont fit the wolf wheels properly!
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2008, 08:41:22 »
A WMIK  ;)



A close up of the alloy  :)




They do look nice, (be better in black though?!!)  However some "special" units do not like them as if they break they can not be repaired/welded as easy as the old steel versions? 

If that's their only fault, I'll have a set please . . . . . in black  :lol:
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2008, 01:55:28 »
Too many Colin McRae fans in the purchasing dept ;)

Used to have a similar thing in product development at Ford, the durability cars would often have steel rims in place of alloys because they got bust too often.  IIRC police cars had steels for the same reason.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 16:37:19 »
I was just thinking the same thing - they look like gravel-spec rally wheels.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 19:20:56 »
Quote from: Disco Matt on September 03, 2008, 16:37:19
I was just thinking the same thing - they look like gravel-spec rally wheels.

Maybe that's the idea, 95% of them are being used on gravel/sand in Iraq & Afghanistan  :)
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2008, 13:06:07 »
They're available from Silverline, called "Blindo" wheels

I've emailed them for a price, but as usual in the UK, no-one  has bothered to reply to me.  :rolleyes:


Nice looking wheels though, would be nice in a 16x8 instead of a 7",although they do different offsets.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 16:49:51 »
Still only 16x7 then :-k

I'd have a set in 18 inch.
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Re: Question about WMIK wheels???
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 09:37:22 »
they do sell them at silverline in warwick, i inquired about them last december, they are expensive though! thing is, they say you will never be able to break it, and if you do, they will replace it! no matter what! they reckon they are the strongest wheel around at the moment!
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