how they got in to a friends house

[simdeb]

 they get up in the morning to find the pvcu door had been MELTED around the lock and hinges looks like they used a blow torch or something, police say there has been several in area!!!!  :shock: :shock:

going to fit a smoke alarm in the garage so at least it will set it off if they try again.

[Hangover]

Bring back proper wooden doors with proper locks,upvc has never lived up to it's expectations.

[graham]

All our doors and windows are wood, but we also have 2 Jack Russells nowt gets past them.
We had a attempted break in 2 years ago we left the front bay window top light on the latch they propped the widow open and were scared off by the dogs. Turned out next day they got into a house up the road and took their Pug 206 they were after ours. Couple of months later they found it in a breakers  around Blackburn area along with a lot more.

If they want to get in they will just make it as difficult as you can for them.

[Range Rover Blues]

It's far from a new trick, our back door has a steel frame inside it and the lock mechanism claws the door into the frame.  The weakest point, if you have one, is a patio door though 8-[

[The Smiths]

I've designed many PVC door, window and conservatory system and even composite and timber products (worked for John Carr / Boulton and Paul - now Jeldwin in product development, I have also been Technical Manager at 4 different PVC system companies) - indeed also designed locks, handles etc and have put in many Patents for the innavations I've develoed for th companies.  It's what I have done for the last 15 years (luckily I've managed to do other things as well).

"Melting" the PVC around the lock would make absolutely no difference to breaking in on a multipoint PVC door.  Melting is a bad term as well because a blow torch would be needed and the plastic would be burnt away.  It's like someone taking a chisel to a timber door and cutting the wood from around the lock - timeconsuming.  But the lock on a PVC door is surrounded by steel in the jamb.

The biggest thing, as with most things that you buy, is to get a good Quality one - this does not mean the most expensive (which can be terrible but extremely overpriced).

Both timber and PVC are reletively easy to break into, if you know what you are doing.  PVC is more resilient  to use of prybars and will not be "kicked in" as easily - assuming it is fitted correctly.

My whole thing is that doors and windows have glass - which can be broken easily and reletively quietly - so no matter what you do people can break in.  Saying that on French doors at the back of my house I've glass that is laminated in both panes so will take at least a lump hammer and lots of effort

The best deterent is lighting and burglar alarm fitted (or dogs for noise)- they will then move onto a house that is easier to do.

[boss]

please re-name this thread "how to break in to houses"!  :lol:

[littlepow]

Saying that on French doors at the back of my house I've glass that is laminated in both panes so will take at least a lump hammer and lots of effort

Pickaxe will make short work of any laminated glass or secure doors.

Just remember, the harder you make it for the theiving scum of the earth. Then the more problems the emergency services will have getting to you!

[Dr Evil]

Bring back hanging  :clap: :clap:

[Edge]

High hegdes/walls around a property give thieves the cover they need to happily spend time breaking in without the worry of being seen by a neighbour. Two people i know have been burgled at night whilst in bed, the dogs didnt bark in either house & got locked in the kitchen by the scum. Both happened during the summer and access was gained via open downstairs windows. (Dogs usually only bark if someone knocks or they see/hear them coming), try getting a friend to just turn up and walk in your house while you are in another room away from the dog. (If the dog barks/threatens your mate "nice one", if not "get a 2nd dog").
Neighbour up the road from my parents has had bars fitted over windows and barred gates over doors, they anticipate firebrigade will bring cutting gear if a fire ever starts :shock:.

[muddyjames]

I have found out the best way to get in through a pvc front door. Found out toaly by accident. I was reversing onto my grass as the drive was full of other things and waiting for the front wheel to drop into a hole in the lawn and in a world of my own I heard a bang and I stopped suddenly. I had only reversed into my own house  :doh: Tow bar hit the door square on, no damage to door but ripped the bottom hinge screws out though. 

I have now put bigger screws in the hinges! ;)

[Ja1983]

a lot of PVC doors and windows arent actually fixed into the opening that well... quite alarmingly some are merely wedged in and expanding phone/mastic used to fill the gap!

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

One of these would be a pretty good detterent. Slighty naughty though and a bit difficult to hide down ones trouser leg, unless of course you wearing a 50's style 'zoot suit'!

[jay118]

6 1" 16 an a half stone + baseball bat = a not so happy burglar .

[littlepow]

One of these would be a pretty good detterent. Slighty naughty though and a bit difficult to hide down ones trouser leg, unless of course you wearing a 50's style 'zoot suit'!

But it will make a awful mess of the shagpile!

[boss]

right...not being funny alot of you are giving detailed info on your houses...... and now to teach you a lession im off to steal your TVs
 :twisted:ahahahahhahahahaha :twisted:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

right...not being funny alot of you are giving detailed info on your houses...... and now to teach you a lession im off to steal your TVs
 :twisted:ahahahahhahahahaha :twisted:

Fair comment, but if you really want a 50's style zoot suit, you are more than welcome to it!

[Boggert]

One of these would be a pretty good detterent. Slighty naughty though and a bit difficult to hide down ones trouser leg, unless of course you wearing a 50's style 'zoot suit'!

I'm with LSP on this obe a big gun and a deep hole would sole the problem.

[richo]

My dad has a pest control buisness and he use's a product that can melt pvc.
Burglers should be tied to a post and stones thown at them.