hard to soft top, seat belt mounting

[suggs]

will be getting around to removing my csw top and fitting my rag top soon, any ideas about were to mount the seat belts or harnesses. did here that Nato roll hoops have mounts but not easy to get hold off..

[MuddyMachine]

Suggs You selling the herd top then?

I f you need help welding in some brackets, I could maybe help

[Bob696]

there is a 'civilian' version available of the roll bar
http://www.allwheeltrim.co.uk/Images/Hood-frames/rollbar.JPG

Unfortunatly its £277 !!

I was fortunate that when I bought my set of hoops off ebay it was included.

[suggs]

not sure if ill sell the hard top as have no idea what there worth, i expect not a lot so will probley keep it.

yeah ive seen the all wheel trim one, but silly money for what it is especilay on top of the cost of the rest of the frame work..

cheers

[Guardian.]

theres load of them nato roll bars about, even new ones, everytime i go to a show theres a few old ones kicking around, and bearmach might do a copy, probably are a couple of hundred quid but what was you expecting it to be.
if you get a used one, make sure it has the supports for it.

[suggs]

what i mean is £277 is a lot of money just to mount the seat belts...

[Guardian.]

well yes, it is, but they aint no good to you flapping about in the boot are they! :lol:

[Priglet]

Here's a couple of options you might want to try.

There's a few breakers about, but you might want to find out why the vehicle is being broken before you buy the bar.
http://www.cws4x4.co.uk/land-rover-breakers.htm

Get one made, the military bars are better than nothing but not as strong as a proper roll bar as mine was only mounted to the body work not the chassis.
http://www.ppcages.com/rollcages/index.php

A bit of a cheaper option.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seat-Belt-Mounting-for-Soft-Top-Land-Rovers_W0QQitemZ230220719692QQihZ013QQcategoryZ31348QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

[suggs]

cheers Priglet thats helpfull mate.

i dont really want to spend out a lot on a hoop thats about as good as a choclate tea pot in a roll over, i will be adding a proper cage when funds allow..

think that ebay one would do it or i maybe could get something made up. perhaps some box section welded to the chassis. i was hoping to get a cage by now but as ive just had a baby girl on new years day ive had to wind my self in a bit....

[Guardian.]

make sure whatever you do its 100% safe then as you have a little baby girl learning the ropes now. :D

[Litch]

As previously stated, the NATO type hoop is nothing more than a heavy-duty hoop-stick (even the later one with the diagonal) as even with all the correct mounting brackets they still don't have a direct fixing to the chassis. If you intend getting a proper hoop in the near future then don't bother with one as like you say, they are quite pricy for what they are.
Having said that I have two of them on my 90 soft-top, the later one with a diagonal sitting in the normal position and an earlier one without the diagonal mounted back-to-front at the rear of the tub. I can't offer you that one i'm afraid as I ground all the brackets off it and sold the fitting kit.

You could try to pick up a genuine seat-belt bracket, it sits across the centre bulkhead and provides the mounting points.

If all else fails just buy a pair of new 2-point inertia-reel seat-belts that do away without the upper mounting. They are what used to be fitted to soft-tops (including LR's) when no upper mount was available and are perfectly safe & comfortable. Securon are just one manufacturer and they are about £30 each brand new, the same model as is used in cars like MGB's etc. I had a pair of new ones but sold them a year or two ago.

[Guardian.]

only thing with 2 point is in a slow round town type shunt, you smash your face on the dash still. safety has to be no1. you can buy a new landy, but not if your knackered.

[Litch]

Why do you smash your face with a 2-point mounting? I am not refering to a lap-belt but a correctly mounted 2-point reel.

The reel mounts behind the centre-bulkhead and the belt runs over your shoulder. It is exactly the same layout as fitted to 95% of all coupe sports cars (including current ones) and is/was the standard method of mounting inertia-reels on LR's if no upper mount is/was available.

[Guardian.]

must be missing the point here, yes i origionaly thought you meant a lapbelt, but what you describe, might as well be a standard 3 point then, they are better afterall.