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[Thrasher]

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/nimmanual/NIM39140.htm

Scary stuff...

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Nice to see that the HMRC has our best interests at heart :roll:

[strapping young lad]

hehe

thing is

ONE line would have been fine

what gives with putting it on every bloomin line

imagine the carbon footprint it causes people to scroll down :P

[The Smiths]

excellent :-$

[stuvy]

hehe

thing is

ONE line would have been fine

what gives with putting it on every bloomin line

imagine the carbon footprint it causes people to scroll down :P

so your not suposed to print it off? lol :P

[mike142sl]

Excellent, I have to write EIRs (Environmental version of FOI) I think I'll use that as a template for future requests.

[datalas]

Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?

[Freelander1980]

Sorry that data has been removed,

Nice so what do i do if i suspect fraud

[crazymac]

Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?

Small point, but I believe it wasn't HMRC that lost them discs!! They were sent by the INTERNAL mail system, which by a strange turn of fate, is run by a private company I.E. Capita!! its them that balsed up, not HMRC

[datalas]

Anyone else think it's a bit weird that the HMRC don't have security in place to stop them posting unencrypted CDs full of private data, but do have security in place to stop anyone reading what you're supposed to do if it's stolen :?

Small point, but I believe it wasn't HMRC that lost them discs!! They were sent by the INTERNAL mail system, which by a strange turn of fate, is run by a private company I.E. Capita!! its them that balsed up, not HMRC

The fact the discs were lost is to my mind secondary, the real issue is that an unpriviledged user had/has access to private data which is outside of their remit,  and that they are requested to put this on CDs unencrypted and to post it via any mechanism in that state.

Whomever is responsible for that has no idea about information security, VPNs, networking or how pish the postal system in this country is.

Note: not the fault of anyone in HMRC or any of it's contractors as individuals but a jolly good indicator of how messed up the entire system is.

[crazymac]

You are so right Datalas, I feel a bit of a rant coming on!

As you say, it highlights how messed up it all is these days :x The government have been steadily de-valueing all of their departments, closing places down, keeping the pay rises down, privatising departments, they have even gone into "hot desking" in some places. Thats where you have say 15 employes for every 12 desks!! nothing personal allowed on them and grab any desk you can!! how can that be good working practice? and then they look to blame someone when it all goes wrong!!  :doh:

And what REALLY bugs me, is it was less than 30% of the voting public that put them in power!!! how can that be right??

Bah!!! I'm off!