Respect?

[Colin 009]

Hi All, was in my Local ASDA's today buying some stuff and Lotto tickets, while being served, I felt a push in the back, looked round to see this school kid standing there his arms full of items,  I expected him to step back when he realized he was to close but no he stayed there, while I payed for my shopping, when I bent down to pick up my bags he was still too close, so I bumped into him, when I stood back up I asked him to "step back and give me room"  he just stared at me and said "shut up old man", I told him he should respect his elders, this just go the response of shut up again.  The little [!Expletive Deleted!] deserved a good beating but I just had to walk away or I wouldn't be telling you this until I was released from prison.

[ben_haynes]

I normally get the Old Grannies stabbing me in the back with the Shopping basket or ramming my ankles and back with the trolley

[freelanderpx54]

I would have made him drop his armful of goods and said oops :^o


























No I would have given him some attitude adjustment

[Panda]

I know what you mean. Theres a grassed area out side my house which the local kids play football on like i did when i was younger. The problem is that they keep hitting my car parked out side my house with the ball. Once i can take after all we're all young once, twice get a little annoyed, so my mum goes out to have a word with them as I'm too sick to be able and they just tell her were to get off.

When i was younger i would have never dared to say anything like that to anyone older.

I do feel the paint ball gun may come out and see how they like it  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  

[Boggert]

To be fair, the majority of kids are ok, however there is a minority who are vile!

[muddy4x4]

I`ve had it when you get some old people moaning about kids, when I`ve had had them push in front of me to get on a bus.
Guess there`s good  and bad in all ages  :(
I work in a school and kids don`t respect teachers anymore ! They now seem to get away with everything

[Guardian.]

it frightens me when i see the kids up town in the evenings, when i was a kid, and it wasnt that long ago, we 'played '  run about messed in fields, bike rides etc, but they all seem to be 6,7,8 year old ex cons on a mission to just do evil.
i never let my daughter out as she wants to go up town with her mates, and theres no chance im letting her up there with the morons hanging around, and wonder how much worse it will be when my 4 year old boy is 10 or 11.
it really is frightning to wonder were it is all going, thank god i live in a house in the middle of a field 2 miles away from a road, miles from anywere.
i couldnt cope with what some of you lot put up with living amongst 'people', i would definately end up in prison myself, as i just would not stand for it.

[Disco Matt]

I normally get the Old Grannies stabbing me in the back with the Shopping basket or ramming my ankles and back with the trolley

Same here. I had one a couple of weeks ago in Aldi who seemed to be completely unable to see me judging by how she kept whacking her bag into me in the queue. Does "personal space" mean nothing to these people? I could understand on a crowded train but this was a huge and near-empty supermarket!

Oddly enough I never get "attitude" from kids. I suspect being 6ft and fairly broad doesn't do me any harm there!

[Colin 009]

The sad thing is the generation growing up today, seems to be the offspring of Wayne and Waynetter, or that one off Little Britain.... I would even go as far to say the parents who grew up in the seventies and eighties, have not been bothered to teach their kids any manners. Also the School system has let them down by being to p.c.
When I was in school you got a canning if you misbehaved, now the teachers aren't allowed discipline them, which is totally wrong.
Bring back Capital Punishment that's what I say....
 

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

To be fair, the majority of kids are ok, however there is a minority who are vile!

I'll agree with Boggert on that one, but I'm reminded of an occasion when I was out with my dear lady and we wanted to get into a shop which had a group of yobs standing in the doorway. I watched as a couple of people tried to get in and were intimidated into giving up.
I just went straight through the middle of them, one got trappy, saying he had a knife. I lost it at that point and told him to shove it up his 'arris', and to ' Foxtrot Oscar'. He and his 'homies' bottled it.
In hindsight, not the wisest thing I've ever done, but I was riled by their whole attitude.

[marjan]

To be fair, the majority of kids are ok, however there is a minority who are vile!

I'll agree with Boggert on that one, but I'm reminded of an occasion when I was out with my dear lady and we wanted to get into a shop which had a group of yobs standing in the doorway. I watched as a couple of people tried to get in and were intimidated into giving up.
I just went straight through the middle of them, one got trappy, saying he had a knife. I lost it at that point and told him to shove it up his 'arris', and to ' Foxtrot Oscar'. He and his 'homies' bottled it.
In hindsight, not the wisest thing I've ever done, but I was riled by their whole attitude.

I say, Jolly good show old chap  :D :D :D

[joe90]

Now you see I work in a place where the students call me Sir all day long.....they dont spit, swear, put chewing gum under the seats. They wear a suit on a friday evening to attend the club on site where there allowed a 3 drink maximum....and nobody argues. They attend lessons 5 mins early and with prep complete, shirts tucked in and ties done up properly . . . .  But 'how' I hear you cry?

All this disciplin is installed in them by our RSM, ( one for four full time military personal working at the college) a tiny giant of man, standing approx 5ft, who legand has it is the quikest person in the british army with a bergan!!! He has the ability to mingle amongst them before going of like an 'H' bomb from within.......and this just proves one thing - Military disciplin works for the kids of today!!!

bring back national service!

[lee celtic]

I had a kid 13-15 ish in B&Q ,he was behind me in the que when I felt a tug on my belt then I remembered I had my work phone (old nokia house brick) on the back of my jeans. I felt the tug again then I went for my wallet just to see if the phone was still there it was ,Then the tug again ...

At this point I turn around and grabbed his jumper and explained that if he tried to nick it again I would snap his <edit> fingers off ..the reply I got was  there were cameras on the tills and if I did hurt him I would get done then he smiled and told me to <edit> ..

I smiled back and said quietly "there arnt any outside :twisted:" He turned a funny shade of white put his stuff down and walked out followed by his misses saying "what you do that for"

Saw them at the bus stop 10 mins later he gave the usual hand gesture  ,I put on the brakes and indicated ,He dived through hedge and started running  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I blame the Parents for not teaching respect..

[crazymac]

I read with interest the bit about people that grew up in the 70's and 80's that haven't taught their kids respect!

Well, I'm one of them parents, and I couldn't agree more!! I held off having kids until I was 33, I now have a 7 yr old girl, who KNOWS about respect for herself and others. it is instilled at home, and backed up in the school she attends (a catholic school even though neither me or the wife are catholics or even very religious!)

I see so many peeps the same age as me, who have 14 15 and 16 year old kids and often they are sods. It is possible to bring up kids well though!! My brother lives in the middle of Leeds (Wortley) and has two, one 18 yesterday (boy) and one 15 in December (girl) They are great kids, respect their elders, work for what they have (nephew bought his own car) and respect themselves as well!

There is a "joke" that goes around about how we survived the 70's etc, but its true, we were/are risk takers. If the teacher told you off, you knew you would get a telling at home, not the cane or belt etc, just an unhappy parent!! My mum brought 4 of us up on her own after my Dad died, we gave her some troubles, but never lost the respect for her! I was taken home once by the police when I was about 14!! I got such a hard time from my mum about it, it never happened again, nowadays the parent would be fronting up to the police threatening to take them out or complain to the bosses!!

I really believe that there is a good case for national service! even if its a year before going to Uni or starting an apprenticeship. It would solve a lot in my opinion!

[Disco Matt]

Problem is, the forces don't want the troublemakers and it's a bit unfair to the respectful hard-working ones to expect them to drop everything for a year and be pushed through discipline that they don't need. I know I used to get heartily sick of the obnoxious kids in school being given all sorts of incentives while those of us who obeyed (most :lol:) of the rules got nothing.

[Dr Strangeglove]

All I would say is when kids become adults, which are the ones that respect their parents - the ones that manage to get away with whatever they can, do not respect anyone (including themselves) and whinge and cry to get what they want OR the kids that are taught discipline, manners and respect for themselves and others (and I don't mean harsh).

I can't help but laugh in disgust when I am unfortunate enough to see one of the programs like "Spendaholics", where a 20 year old who is 20k in debt says that the reason they spend so much is because they "deserve it!".

And have you tried to get a younger person to work with pride and effort!!!!!!!!!

Sad really - but their are some really nice young people around and it makes you value them more!

[Greenlanekit]

Its the Parents responsibility folks to teach then manners and etiquette in the home, my daughter bless her says, please, thank you and sorry on her own, she's 3 1/2. The Nanny state that we live in is only getting worse, its when Coppers can get done for clipping their ears we know its game over, and Mr Brown and Mr Blair have spent all the credits years ago, namley the £53 bln that we had in the bank and our gold reserves.

Its hard to upset your children telling them off but you have to do it. I also can't understand why our roads are so littered. I hate to have to say it but I feel that there are quite few stupid people, who have children and who are inconsiderate of our country. Chucking rubbish out of car windows is terrible, you just look at the side of the road when you are driving, you dont get it anywhere else in Europe, anywhere its embarrasijg as a nation.

Mind you I was at work a few weeks back, watching a 4 year old eating a Mc'Ds drinking a can of red bull whilst being pushed around by her young mother who was smoking, whilst F'ing and blinding to her mate.

"Leave all hope at the door when you get your ID card, your free house, access to our NHS and benefits with no job required" Dont you just love our government..   

[Disco Matt]

Chucking rubbish out of car windows is terrible, you just look at the side of the road when you are driving, you dont get it anywhere else in Europe, anywhere its embarrasijg as a nation.
 

It's the debris field near temporary traffic lights that always gets me - you can see where convoys of numbskulls have decided to heave their empty wrappers over the side rather than wait and find a proper bin. I actually find it rather insulting that they regard my part of the world as a dustbin!

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Chucking rubbish out of car windows is terrible, you just look at the side of the road when you are driving, you dont get it anywhere else in Europe, anywhere its embarrasijg as a nation.
 

It's the debris field near temporary traffic lights that always gets me - you can see where convoys of numbskulls have decided to heave their empty wrappers over the side rather than wait and find a proper bin. I actually find it rather insulting that they regard my part of the world as a dustbin!

Don't lose faith. Sometimes strange things happen. For example, ask the spotty herbert who, when sat in a traffic jam, decided to finish his tasty cold beverage, wind down the window of his car and lob the bottle out, without looking behind him.
If he had of done, he would have seen me, sat in my large white patrol car. He may then have seen me get out, pick up the bottle, place it in an evidence bag and approach his car.
The conversation then went like this
Me: I belive that this is yours
Him: Nah, not mine mate.
Me: You are wrong on two counts, sir, namely, one, I just saw you throw this out of the window, thus proving it was your property. Two, at this moment, I am not your mate, I am your worst enemy.
Him: Prove it I touched it.
Me: Ok. (Pause while a computer check was done, which showed he was known, convicted, therefore his prints and DNA were held by Police). We have your DNA, which is also all round the top of this bottle. Do you see where I'm going with this, sir?
Him: So what, it's hardly a crime, is it?
Me: Technically your right, however, would you like it if I came round to your house and took a dump on your doorstep?
Him: No, whats that got to do with it?
Me: I don't like it when people like you chuck your crap in my area. I'll see you in court. Thank you for visiting my county, but please don't come back.

He went to court, pleaded not guilty, got found guilty and got fined £100.

Some may say it was a waste of Police time. I would disagree. I wouldn't have fined him, I'd have made him come back and clean up a 5 mile stretch of verge. They don't like it up 'em.

[Greenlanekit]

You see Lord Shagg Pile, that's what I call doing the right thing, good for you, its cleary a certain type of folk, they seem to have no respect for the country, the law or anyone around them ( problem is the uneducated seem to be more and more prevelent, when I say educated I dont just mean schooling) I feel exteremly sorry for the guy who was murdered over telling some kids off about dropping a chocolate bar wrapper in his car, terribly sad. If I see anyone littering or spitting, I must admit I'm not shy of saying somthing.

It's funny I cant put my finger on it but it really makes me angry that some people in society do this. I also cant understand why our schools can't teach this from a young age, goes back to the home I guess.  But hay I actually have some faith left now you've said that.

When we run the 4x4 days you'd be surprised how much litter we pick up, not much to be fair but enough.. I found a polystyrene cup stuck on a branch last time, not very cool seeing as we rear Pheasants and live in the country.

[Bishops Finger]

Shoot em all.....

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Shoot em all.....

Who? pheasants or fly tippers?

[SteveGoodz]

Shoot em all.....

Who? pheasants or fly tippers?

You'll have to shoot both or one of them will complain about you being prejudiced  :lol: :lol:

Is there a closed season on fly tippers?

[crazymac]

Every time I go out to the States, I see at least one "road gang" working. They are all in their bright orange overalls picking up rubbish from the side of the interstates!!

Why don't we do that in this country? because we are not allowed to "label" a prisoner as a "prisoner" as it is against their human rights!! [Edited] ???? Get them dressed up in out their tidying up our country, then they may learn a little bit of respect for our country and themselves!

[Bishops Finger]

Bring back chain gangs as well

[Colin 009]

Get them dressed up in out their tidying up our country, then they may learn a little bit of respect for our country and themselves!

Just don't let Group 4 guard them.... as their'll do a runner..... :doh:

[Disco Matt]

Shoot em all.....

Who? pheasants or fly tippers?

You'll have to shoot both or one of them will complain about you being prejudiced  :lol: :lol:

Is there a closed season on fly tippers?

Pheasants are fine by me. We've had one in the garden and he was no trouble to anyone. The individuals who shove empty takeaway cartons in our hedge however...

[discomummy]

Hi,

i have taught my two to respect their elders, and this often includes older kids, we had an incident where a group of teenagers were intimidatingly lurking, we had to walk past and the girls very politely asked them to move aside to allow us thru, they just moved without any issues. 

often, they just don't want to be dissed just for being teenagers!

however, there are some utter monsters around, like the one at school who is currently assaulting one of the girls on a daily basis.  i will be going in today and advising the school that, despite previous letters, the abuse is still going on with the result that she is now saying that she is scared to attend school. 

i will be prepared to take the matter further as we are logging all assaults - teachers are sending this monster out of the class for attacking my girl, but nothing is actually being done about it. 

can i contact the police re this?  there is physical force being used as well as insults being yelled at her and he also gets his cousin to stand with him either side of her and scream loudly in her ears at the same time. 

i must admit i have considered taking other action, but as usual, he has all the protection of the school despite being the aggressor and we have none. 

regards

ela

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Hi,

i have taught my two to respect their elders, and this often includes older kids, we had an incident where a group of teenagers were intimidatingly lurking, we had to walk past and the girls very politely asked them to move aside to allow us thru, they just moved without any issues. 

often, they just don't want to be dissed just for being teenagers!

however, there are some utter monsters around, like the one at school who is currently assaulting one of the girls on a daily basis.  i will be going in today and advising the school that, despite previous letters, the abuse is still going on with the result that she is now saying that she is scared to attend school. 

i will be prepared to take the matter further as we are logging all assaults - teachers are sending this monster out of the class for attacking my girl, but nothing is actually being done about it. 

can i contact the police re this?  there is physical force being used as well as insults being yelled at her and he also gets his cousin to stand with him either side of her and scream loudly in her ears at the same time. 

i must admit i have considered taking other action, but as usual, he has all the protection of the school despite being the aggressor and we have none. 

regards

ela

I would demand stronger action from the school and ask them what their anti-bullying policy is. After that it would be a snotty call to the education authroity, quoting the Human Rights Act. If they say 'we have to think of the boys rights', gently remind them that the law is there to protect the law abiding majority. If they still decline to do anything, tell them that you will be informing the Police; they may not like the publicity. Make sure that every incident is documented and any evidence obtained i.e physical injuries photographed or logged at your GP. If any change in behaviour of the victim is noticed, get that documented as well.
If a systematic pattern of abuse and harrasement can be shown, the school are failing in their duty of care towards this lass, and in a roundabout way, the offender as well.
The Police may be reluctant to get involved unless all other avenues have been covered, but if you can show that that has been done, they should take it on.

Best of luck

[morson4x4]

I get it all the time i'm a bus driver and do school runs and well best way to describe it is a mobile zoo they are wild the abuse you get and the language i dare swear in front my mum she would give me a hiding back then, but "the new generation" of kids is out of control and theres sweet fa we can do, what happened to the days of parents giving curfews, respect your elders and aloud to give ya a smack for misbehaving, 2008 has none of this sorry to say.  :doh: