trouble with high and low

[toneefc]

im having trouble running in high or low gears, 96 2.5 td manual, put it in gear and nothing, high or low, put it in lock and it goes, when its in high and in gear you can hear it spinning any ideas cheers tony

[chris9119]

Ooooops, sounds as if you've knackered a CV or diff.

You need to jack it up and see what wheels are turning when in diff lock.

If the back's go round, then it's either the front diff or a CV.

[Range Rover Blues]

You should also be able to see a propshaft spinning when it's stood on the road, in gear and out of difflock.  The prop that's spining point to the axle that's knackered.

Been off-roadin particulary hard recently?

[toneefc]

brill i will jack it up tomorrow and check it out, keep you posted cheers tony

[toneefc]

yes in the lakes did'nt have any trouble getting back, 1 week later would'nt move ? tony

[stuntman]

My 200 rear axel went bang on sunday last week, It turned out cheaper to buy a whole new200 series disco then it was to repair the rear axel! Although a new used diff should be around £40 for a 200 series or £45 for a 300 series (If your stuck and need contact details give me a shout, they are collection only though)

Regards

Andi K

[toneefc]

cheers fe the advice i will keep you posted.

[boss]

what tyres you running??

[chris9119]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

[toneefc]

just started it and put it in high and first gear, while it was on the ground the front prop shaft was spinning, i assume the front axle is the problem then ?

[extreme90]

yep
its either the diff
shaft
or 1/4 shaft/stub what ever you want to call them
id say its the 1/4 shaft, twisted and broken

remove the front wheel
undo the ring of 5 9/16th IIRC bolts and withdraw the shaft
start on the drivers side....its nearly always the short shaft side that breaks, not the pass long side

dan

[stuvy]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

[toneefc]

give it a go cheers tony

[boss]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

hees on the same page!

[chris9119]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

I wouldn't agree with that statement..., breakages of half-shafts, etc, are usually down to aggressive right and left foot operations whilst driving on iffy terrain, IMO

[CNorman]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

I wouldn't agree with that statement..., breakages of half-shafts, etc, are usually down to aggressive right and left foot operations whilst driving on iffy terrain, IMO

Not been funny but how can you disagree with that statement 

Its pretty simple really isnt it, torque=forcexradius

If you put 200 Nm through 31" wheels then upgrade to 35's you will put almost 15% more torque through the drive train. Or do you simply remove your foot from the accelerator by 15% and NEVER use full throttle....

[extreme90]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

I wouldn't agree with that statement..., breakages of half-shafts, etc, are usually down to aggressive right and left foot operations whilst driving on iffy terrain, IMO

Not been funny but how can you disagree with that statement 

Its pretty simple really isnt it, torque=forcexradius

If you put 200 Nm through 31" wheels then upgrade to 35's you will put almost 15% more torque through the drive train. Or do you simply remove your foot from the accelerator by 15% and NEVER use full throttle....

i agree also
ino people running 35inch simex, with lockers and tweaked tdi's
and there yet to break owt
driver and groundreading
knowing when to back off the load pedal
and just giving up and getting the winch out

[CNorman]

what tyres you running??

Who? and why?

If there really big aggressive tyres then it will speed the breakages up be more often too

I wouldn't agree with that statement..., breakages of half-shafts, etc, are usually down to aggressive right and left foot operations whilst driving on iffy terrain, IMO

Not been funny but how can you disagree with that statement 

Its pretty simple really isnt it, torque=forcexradius

If you put 200 Nm through 31" wheels then upgrade to 35's you will put almost 15% more torque through the drive train. Or do you simply remove your foot from the accelerator by 15% and NEVER use full throttle....

i agree also
ino people running 35inch simex, with lockers and tweaked tdi's
and there yet to break owt
driver and groundreading
knowing when to back off the load pedal
and just giving up and getting the winch out

I know lots and lots and lots of people with standard vehicles who have never broken anything. Does not really change the fact that you are operating outside the design parameters does it?

[extreme90]

bits of paper mean nothing really  :roll:
35 inch simex and air locking diffs are far from the origional design but with no breakages and running on std shafts, that  proves that its not so much the design
but driver thats more to blame
ok, forcing a land rover up a 6ft vertical waterfall is a completely different senario than generall offroading, thats just taking the p***  if on std shafts
but do you get my point ?  :-.

[CNorman]

I do yes, and i do agree with you as well but it isnt just "a bit of paper" is it? How do you think they designed it in the first place, they wont have had a talk about it they will have beased it on some calculations

[toneefc]

i got a secondhand axle of craig. cheers craig,and swapped it, running like new thanks EVERYONE for the advice and all the help :clap: cheers tony