Topic: Iv'e passed :-) (Read 1329 times)

muddyjames · « **on:** March 17, 2008, 16:54:28 »

Today has been the day for the hgv / lgv theory test. :o :-\

In the test I needed to get 51 correct answers out of 60 for the questions part and I got 54. Hazard perception part I needed 50 out of 75 points and I got 63. So all in all, that counts as a............... PASS ;D :o

Next up, the practicle!

Well, caravan selling then practicle! :D

As you can see I got a couple of questions wrong. The ones I think they were and you folks might be able to help me out on the right answers are.

You are coupling up a trailer which has 2 air lines. which colour air line do you NOT attatch. I had no idea and guessed black.

Which knot is best to use to secure a load? I guessed a slip not. I know zilch about knots!

Which is likely to make an unsecure load fall off? I had to mark 3 but the 3rd I was unsure of between these 2 answers. Excessive speed or a railway crossing. I went for the railway crossing.

Another was you are going down a steep hill and dont want the breaks to over heat. What else can you use? I said the engine retarder. Anotheroption was a secondary break and 2 other things.

But I'm happy as I didnt even revise for it. A bit daft but caravan selling and other things happened and before I knew it I got a reminder on my phone that it was the next day. :shock: :lol:

landroverkeith · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2008, 17:03:12 »

congrats on the pass james :clap: :clap:

I woulda thought the going down hill bit without burnin out brakes would be use a low gear???

muddyjames · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2008, 17:05:00 »

cheers Keith.

There wasn't a low gear option. That is what I thought it would have been as well, hence why I went for the engine retarder as that was the closest to the engine breaking I could think of. :-k

TDi90 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2008, 17:50:19 »

ha ha a slip knot! :doh: =;
a bolyn, or 8 knot, or rolling hitch i would have said.
but well done :clap:

Sharpshooter · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2008, 18:16:13 »

A dolly and half hitches should clench that one.

muddyjames · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2008, 18:25:11 »

Quote from: Sharpshooter on March 17, 2008, 18:16:13

A dolly and half hitches should clench that one.

I reckognise those names. Ithink one of them or even both were an option. Either way, I have no idea how to do them!

Lincs niva · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2008, 19:33:52 »

Well done mate congrats :D

Hopefully the council i work for will put me through my HGV this year...

Cheers Gav

BigA · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2008, 19:46:05 »

congratulations mate, onwards to the practical now.

beast5680 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2008, 19:52:41 »

have you just taken the theory straight out then or had lessons? can you progress straight to a class 1 now or have to sit a rigid first? when i did mine i went straight for a class 1 or C+E whatever its called now?

on a side note have the HGV drivers seen the new CPC test you will have to pass thats coming in? after 2009 every driver will need one but from what i know existing drivers will get them on granfathers rights in 2009 then have to have 35 hours training from 2014

muddyjames · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2008, 19:55:48 »

Quote from: beast5680 on March 17, 2008, 19:52:41

have you just taken the theory straight out then or had lessons? can you progress straight to a class 1 now or have to sit a rigid first? when i did mine i went straight for a class 1 or C+E whatever its called now?

I did the theory straight out. that way hopefully it will be cheaper as I can just go for a few days lessons then the test instead of taking lessons then the theory not knowing how many times it would take to pass then more lessons.

Quote from: beast5680 on March 17, 2008, 19:52:41

on a side note have the HGV drivers seen the new CPC test you will have to pass thats coming in? after 2009 every driver will need one but from what i know existing drivers will get them on granfathers rights in 2009 then have to have 35 hours training from 2014

You are joking me right? So if I do the test this year will I get grandfather rights? I hope so.

beast5680 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2008, 20:29:04 »

i would ask and find out about the cpc as you may find you need to take it i,ve not got all the info yet but my old man is in the road haulage assoc so he is keeping me posted as to whats happening there is some info here

Sider · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2008, 21:38:22 »

.-Blue (Used to be secondary air circuit)
.-Dolly knot (just google it, it is quite easy once you've done it a couple of times)
.-Excesive Speed (picture cornering fast with something on your dashboard)
.-Exhaust Brake (It limits the amount of gas that can leave the cylinders, slowing down the engine)

For HGV, if you get your licence before 10th September 2009, you will be awarded the CPC driver on grandfather's rights.

And BTW, well done on the theory. Now don't forget it, some of the questions will be repeated on the practical, though your instructor should tell you which ones.

Wireless · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2008, 15:19:29 »

You just get a restriction code for what used to be Class 1, if like me you hold Class 2 entitlement.

Although to be honest I did Class 3, two axle rigid body HGV with the Army and was regularly towing HGV Trailers (mainly 30KVa Generators), when they changed the Licensing the last time, and that meant I gained grandfather rights for Class 2, multiple axle rigid body LGV, because I towed LGV Trailers.

At that time we had an off-road cone test, which you had to pass before an on-road test, but it being the Army we also did practical off-road where you used low range 4x4 in the HGV over an army off-road training course (lots of fun!).

Never used my Licence on Commercial Vehicles (not used a Tachograph) and haven't driven LGV since 1992 after leaving the Army.

I hit 45 in a couple of years, and it'll not really be worthwhile taking the medical.

I have been thinking about buying an old 57 seat coach converted into a large caravanette, anyone know the licensing requirements to drive one of those, including how many seats I'd be restricted to on the vehicle?

My current Licence holds the following entitlement;

A, B, BE, B1, C
CE Code 102
C1E Code 107
D1 Code 101
D1E Codes 101 & 119
f, k, l, n, p
Plus there's a general Code 115 in the box at the bottom???

If anyone can throw light on this I'd appreciate it.

muddyjames · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2008, 15:35:40 »

as far as I am aware a minibus has no weight restriction on it. So maybe make a coach a minibus. You will have that on your license. ;) :lol:

BK · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2008, 17:27:29 »

Congrats matey :dance:when you pass your test,youll get a full class 2 licence which allows you to drive anything basically that doesnt bend in the middle,ie you cant drive an artic but your class 2 is a provisional class 1 licence,and no you cant drive a bus,not without a pcv licence (i have both pcv and class 1)

muddyjames · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2008, 17:43:59 »

Quote from: BK on March 18, 2008, 17:27:29

Congrats matey :dance:when you pass your test,youll get a full class 2 licence which allows you to drive anything basically that doesnt bend in the middle,ie you cant drive an artic but your class 2 is a provisional class 1 licence,and no you cant drive a bus,not without a pcv licence (i have both pcv and class 1)

a bus is something for another time but on the to do list!!! Not sure I could face another theory test just yet!! :lol:

Wireless · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2008, 23:28:40 »

Quote from: BK on March 18, 2008, 17:27:29

and no you cant drive a bus,not without a pcv licence (i have both pcv and class 1)

Not sure whether that was directed at me, if I removed enough seats (caravanette conversion), surely my licence would allow me to drive a converted coach as a minibus on a non-commercial basis (which I understand is the code restriction)?

Wireless · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2008, 00:00:01 »

OK checked DVLA;

I have category C+E with restriction 102, I can drive a motorhome up to 39 foot 4 inches in length, 8 foot 4 inches wide, and up to any height as there's no restriction (although a plate must be visible to the driver indicating a height above 9 foot 10 inches). The vehicle can be over 7.5 tonnes MAM, there is no maximum weight restriction, and I can tow any drawbar trailer over 750kgs.

Looking at the other rules on the DVLA site; I can have up to 16 passengers, plus the driver, and since I have code 119 on D1+E, there's no restrictions on the MAM of the vehicle, width restrictions, length restrictions, etc, just take out 41 seats on the 57 seater coach.

So a Minibus and/or Motorhome?

Codes explained;

101 Not for hire or reward
102 Drawbar trailers only
107 Not more than 8250kg (C1+E only)
115 Organ donor (Eek!)
119 Weight limit does not apply

I'm now more confused than before, can anyone make top or tail of this?

Doesn't state I need a PCV, however, I lose some of these above entitlements if I don't carry on with the LGV after aged 45, so maybe I do need to take the damned medical after all.

BK · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2008, 22:24:07 »

Sorry mate,no it wasnt directed at you :D,i was on about muddy james,it all must have changed these days cos i always thought c+e was class 1 (artics) and as far as i was aware you can take your test in a 7.5 tonner pulling a drawbar trailer and that would get you your class 1 (daft idea really cos theres a massive difference between driving a 44 tonne artic and driving a tonka truck pulling a drawbar :D)so i dont really know but good luck anyway and watch them mirrors :lol:

Sider · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2008, 06:28:16 »

C+E IS the old class 1, but there were some cases where DVLA considered than some people with the old Class1 should be restricted to drawbars only. Bit daft if you ask me, since it is way more difficult to manouver a drawbar than a proper artic.

As for the test, more info in the link below, but in a nutshell, no, you cannot use a class3 with trailer.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_4022527

Wireless · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2008, 15:34:47 »

I think you'll find it's 16 passengers plus the driver, and it pays to read the entire thread before posting, since I answered my own question in a later post.

I can indeed drive a 'Minibus' with 16 passengers over the D1+E weight restrictions, and am also exempted width, length, and height restrictions, since I hold a C+E Licence. So a 57 seat coach with 41 seats removed can be a 'Minibus' on my licence.

Italian Job anyone?

Here's the DVLA link;

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022498

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