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Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« on: March 18, 2008, 20:30:02 »
Changing a manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor, switches and some power?

Motors about £25 on eblag.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 20:33:55 »
The motorised ones are tilt and slide, not lift up like the manual ones......
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 20:39:16 »
My manual tilts up then slides back, maybe 6"/8". Are the electric ones different then?
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 21:14:23 »
I think thrasher is thinking of the older type on the 200TDi (Also used on Austin Metro's!). The newer 300 type ones have a winder handle and like you say tilt and slide sort of...

I can't say for sure but I would assume that it is likely that you can just swap for electric motors.

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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2008, 21:59:35 »
Gotta be worth a try!
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 23:13:13 »
I'm pretty sure that the mechanical and electric sun roofs have the same opening action. Whether, or mot, you can simply replace the hand winder with a motor is another matter though.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 01:46:15 »
Electric roof has an ECU, limit switches and some other stuff.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 07:18:34 »
Hi

I have a sunroof ECU and I have some of the switches as well. If you want them let me know. Don't want much for them.

Cheers

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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 12:01:38 »
The power feed is probably there already - mine has it despite not having either type of sunroof. Pull out the little plastic panel between the sun visors and look for an oval-shaped plug with three holes in.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 15:36:14 »
Hi

I would have thought the biggest issue was the wiring for the ECU.

If the plug is there on all looms then you are laughing but if its not then fitting electric sunroof motors is going to be a ball ache IMHO...

Cheers

John
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 18:29:30 »
Quote from: discopinky on March 19, 2008, 07:18:34
Hi

I have a sunroof ECU and I have some of the switches as well. If you want them let me know. Don't want much for them.

Cheers

John

Could you PM me the sort of money you are looking for and I'll check for the wiring hidden under the headlining.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2008, 21:00:47 »
You can have them for a £10... Just to make it clear I only have the front console switches I can't find the rear ones at the minute but they may turn up yet...
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2008, 18:43:13 »
Quote from: discopinky on March 20, 2008, 21:00:47
You can have them for a £10... Just to make it clear I only have the front console switches I can't find the rear ones at the minute but they may turn up yet...

Hi John, Sorry for the delay. I'm going to say no thanks because.........

I've pulled the visors/map pocket thing off and can only find a couple of thin wires - certainly nothing that looks like it could power a sunroof motor.

I've studied the parts manual/wiring diagram and the ECU shoud have 2 big block connectors with 15 wires in total, plus the wiring for the switches and motor. As you said earlier, it's going to be a right royal PITA without the wiring.

Thanks for the offer though.
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Re: Manual sunroof to electric - is it as easy as adding a motor and some power?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 16:40:30 »
my sunroofs wont open coz i greased them up which has dislodged some grit which puts preasure on the roof and cuts in the safety switch and stops either roof opening up.

Converting mine to manaul is easy as all it takes is a allen key! Hard work though.

Yes, it is on that huge long to do job list is to work out what has got wedged in the sensor somewhere!  :twisted:
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