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BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« on: March 20, 2008, 14:32:00 »
The BBC has won rights to show F1 next year!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/20/bbc_formula_one_rights/



Oh no! I remember that the BBC diddnt used to show all the GP in full, it frequently cut between F1 and other (so called) sports like football snooker and tiddly winks. They diddnt promte it and once they even cut from a fantastic french GP with mansel chasing Prost/Senn or someone to RAIN AT WIMBLEDON.

Ok so now they have more channels on digital etc and they dotn have as much sport to show, but I still dont trust them. I think ITV made a lot out of the F1 coverage and put on a good show. Adverts were there yes, but they were well placed and F1 is not so busy that you cant cut back to an event. Also with Lewis H doign so well ITV are NUTS to let this go, more repeats of hearbeat instead?

Also the loss of sponsorship/advertising opporutnities for manufacturers wont be a good thing...  BOOO!

Shame ITV did a good job and its not really thier fault that tye diddnt have Murr Walker and James Hunt!

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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 15:20:11 »
Good no more annoying adverts
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 18:37:34 »
Lets hope they bring back The Chain.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2008, 18:49:38 by andyw »

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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 18:50:41 »
bring back murray walker. he was the best, so enthusiastic, exactly what a commentator should be.  :clap: :dance:
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2008, 20:12:26 »
Shame really as I like the format on ITV and I also like the people on it , even the brakes are handy ,toilet, fridge etc :lol:
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2008, 20:34:32 »
As long as the retain Martin Brundle everything will be ok
Losing James Allen will be a good day.
I find him most annoying
Bring Peter Windsor on the pit team and we'll have the perfect F1 programme
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 20:49:10 »
I would be sad to loose Martin Brundle as his driver insight is very good , just the sound of a car coming past can warn him somethings not right with a car .
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 22:03:51 »
Bloody great news!
No more James Allen, who infamously once described Ayrton Senna as immortal. That'll be the dead Ayrton Senna then will it James?  :evil:
The blokes a tool!
Brundle's ok though. Tells it like it is  :twisted:

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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2008, 04:07:01 »
Good, no damned adverts at thwe wrong time, with how much of my licence fee it must have cost they had better not cut to the rain at wimbledon or some poof in a strippy shirt going for an oscar (sorry, penalty).

I think the BBC will have had to learn a lot from ITV about presentation, after all there are lots of advertisers with unlce Bernie who will want to see the sport stay popular.
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2008, 06:31:08 »
Good news. No more adverts.

How about this for a line up.

Richard Hammond front man.

Suzy Perry in the pit lane.

Martin Brundle & Damon Hill commentating.
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 07:53:11 »
With Lewis Hamilton getting better every time he turns out i can't understand why ITV have let it go as he's going to be a crowd/viewer watcher which in turn improves thier ratings for a good few years yet. I agree with Murray Walker and Martin Brundle,like the idea of Suzie Perry and Richard Hammond but we will see, must admit i lost interest with the sport as it got to much like follow the leader so lets see what happens.

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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 08:55:27 »
how about no.
no richard hammond.
how about MARRAY WALKER  :clap: :clap:
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 10:41:45 »
Taken from www.grandprix.com
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The BBC has secured the television rights to show Formula 1 in the UK, starting next year. The five-year deal includes radio, Internet and and mobile phone rights. It is 12 years since the BBC lost the deal to rival ITV. The deal comes at a time when interest in F1 in Britain is rising steeply as Lewis Hamilton campaigns to win the World Championship.

ITV had a deal for 2009 and 2010 but it seems that the company decided to forego this because it has too many other commitments.

"I think maybe they will have their hands full with other things," said Bernie Ecclestone. "Maybe the BBC can service us a bit better."

ITV said that it was "a straightforward commercial decision for ITV and we are pleased that F1 will continue to be broadcast free-to-air".

It is believed that the decision is possibly related to negotiations currently going on over the rights to the soccer Champions League, where the two companies have been bidding against one another. BSkyB, an offshoot of Sky, has bought most of the rights for the 2009 to 2012 period for $480m and the two terrestrial broadcasters have been squabbling over the remaining games. It is possible that the BBC has decided to trade the soccer for the F1. ITV has already made a big investment in soccer with the purchase of live FA Cup and England rights.
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2008, 14:16:13 »
yay no more adverts and no more stoopid commentary from james allen :dance:
keep brundle though i like him
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2008, 16:30:41 »
Good news. No more adverts.

How about this for a line up.

Richard Hammond front man.

Suzy Perry in the pit lane.

And the BBC ought to buy the braodcasting rights to, Tour de France, World Rally & World Superbikes too!!!!!!!! :D
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2008, 18:22:21 »
Was it not James Allen who said last weekend that frank williams would be on the edge of the seat because the racing was so good. The same frank williams that has been in a wheel chair since a bad car crash.

Long live bbc F1!!!!

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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2008, 22:24:17 »
I still think BBC was poor.

Current method of watching GP
Set Sky plus to record GP program or watch GP program at time listed in schedule and sky plus through the ads.

BBC Method
Sit down to watch Grandstand at 10:00 to find out when they will show GP (yes I know thay start at 1.pm or whatever but that never made any diff before). Watch 30 mins about football before they say it will start about 12:30. Come in at 12:30 watch some football player talk about some game for 10 mins and then see the highlights of another. Cut to 2secs before greeen light. Watch race for a bit until there is a goals update, then cut away as something else happens with someone playing tennis. 

Seriously I think ITV have done wonders for F1 coverage.
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2008, 23:21:45 »
No to Richard Hammond, he's on enough as it is and is obviously an entertainer rather than an expert. I say Damon Hill and/or Tiff Needell, both have race experience and Tiff has proved he can present too.
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2008, 00:06:41 »
Don't like the look of the betting on Paddy Power:

BBC F1 commentator:

James Allen 2 - 5
Murray Walker 7 - 4

(nobody else in the betting... no Croft or Edwards...)


BBC F1 Presenter:

Gabby Logan 2 - 1
Gary Lineker 3 - 1
John Inverdale 4 - 1
Steve Ryder 5 - 1
Craig Doyle 6 - 1
Ray Stubbs 8 - 1
Mark Pougatch 10 - 1
Hazel Irvine 12 - 1
Adrian Chiles 16 - 1
Clare Balding 25 - 1
Nigel Mansell 100 - 1
Murray Walker 100 - 1
John McCririck 500 - 1


Possible choices would be:

Presenter: Steve Ryder or Love Matt Lorenzo, but I guess it's unlikely... please no Top Gear or current BBC sport presenter

Lead commentator: David Croft or Ben Edwards
Co-commentator: Martin Brundle
Guest commentator: Murray Walker (British GP, possibly season opener and/or finale also?)

Pit Reporters: Take your pick out of: Peter Windsor, Bruce Jones, Louise Goodman. Maybe they'll share reporters with the 5 live coverage, though? Would put Holly Samos right in the picture.

Analysis: Perry McCarthy or Johnny Herbert or Damon Hill or John Watson (maybe they could mix it up with former drivers/team personnel or test/reserve drivers each week).

But I'm not gonna get all of that, I know! Ad-free coverage of all sessions (which we now know we'll have), plus no James Allen and I'm happy!  The commentator change is the main thing. Why would BBC keep Allen for their coverage? Surely they'll be after a fresh start! Just hope they're taking in all the input they're receiving!

Roll on 2009!   
     
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Re: BBC to get F1 Rights (Oh no!)
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2008, 04:51:08 »

Clare Balding 25 - 1


Great, Nice to see I have Family in the running!  :dance: tickets!!

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http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-7399053,00.html

BBC win Formula One rights from ITV
(Adds length of deal, details)
LONDON, March 20 (Reuters) - The BBC has regained the British television rights to Formula One from rivals ITV in a five-year deal starting in 2009, the broadcaster and F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone said on Thursday.
The agreement will be seen as a coup for the public broadcaster, coming at a time when 23-year-old British driver Lewis Hamilton is leading the championship for the McLaren racing team after finishing last year as runner-up.
ITV have broadcast the sport in Britain since the start of the 1997 season, when Briton Damon Hill was Formula One champion.
The BBC said that the deal covered all platforms and will see Formula One broadcast on the BBC sport Web site as well as on radio and television.
"We were delighted when Bernie Ecclestone approached us about the return of F1 to the BBC," BBC Sport director of sport rights Dominic Coles told the broadcaster's Web site (www.bbc.co.uk).
"F1 is a crown jewel of sports broadcasting, so to bring the rights back to their traditional home from 2009 is tremendously exciting.
No financial details were given but Ecclestone said in a statement issued by Formula One Management (FOM) he was delighted with the deal.
"I wish to thank ITV for their commitment to Formula One and the high quality of their coverage. It is an exciting time in Formula One and the BBC has some innovative new ideas to consolidate and expand our UK fan base," he said.
ITV said last October the 2007 title-deciding Brazilian Grand Prix, in which Hamilton lost to Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen by a single point, was the most-watched Formula One race since 2000 with a peak audience of 10.6 million and an average of 7.3 million watching the entire three-hour event. (Reporting by Alan Baldwin; Editing by David Holmes)


And from the BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7306123.stm


Formula One to return to BBC TV

The BBC has secured the television rights to show Formula One in the UK from the 2009 season.

The five-year deal for an undisclosed fee marks F1's return to BBC screens 12 years after it switched to ITV.

The contract covers all platforms and will see F1 broadcast on the BBC Sport website, as well as on TV and radio.

F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone said he was "delighted", adding: "The BBC has some innovative ideas to consolidate and expand our UK fan base."

 Among the new developments will be live video coverage of F1 on the BBC Sport website.

Asked why he had decided to split with ITV, Ecclestone told BBC Radio 5 Live: "It's not that we are unhappy with ITV but I think maybe they will have their hands full with other things and maybe the BBC can service us a bit better.

"I think it will be good, a fresh face. I'm not complaining about ITV, I'm not saying they did a bad job or anything like that.

"But with all the other things they are loaded up with - and who knows they will get some more stuff - maybe it will be a bit more difficult to spend as much time on us.

"I think the BBC will do that."

Dominic Coles, BBC Sport director of sport rights, said: "The biggest motorsporting event in the world is returning home after 12 years.

"We were delighted when Bernie Ecclestone approached us about the return of F1 to the BBC.

"F1 is a crown jewel of sports broadcasting, so to bring the rights back to their traditional home from 2009 is tremendously exciting.

"Fans will be able to enjoy uninterrupted, state of the art and innovative coverage from BBC Sport, across all of our TV, radio and new media platforms, for the first time since 1996."

ITV, which was in the third year of a five-year deal, released a statement saying it had "decided to exit F1 at the end of this season".

It added that it was a "straightforward commercial decision".

BBC director of sport Roger Mosey said: "Our understanding is that F1 did have a termination right at the end of the 2008 season, and that appears to be what has happened, and we're absolutely delighted F1 will be back on the BBC this time next year."


Murray Walker, former F1 commentator for both the BBC and ITV, said: "I'm absolutely flabbergasted - I was lying in bed listening to the news this morning and I almost fell out of bed when I heard it.

"It's an amazing development because I think ITV did and do a superb job, and I think there is more to this than meets the eye."

BBC sports news correspondent Adam Parsons said: "ITV are saying it was a straightforward commercial decision. A lot of people I have spoken to today have queried that.

"Within ITV, what they are saying is that even though Lewis Hamilton is great, even though the Brazilian Grand Prix [at the end of last year] got a huge viewing figures, that actually over the course of a year viewing figures are not that impressive, they're not that great.

"A lot of races are happening at night, they're not happening at peak time. That it is not particularly good value for money.

"The other side of that is the BBC is saying, Lewis Hamilton and the ripple effect of that is wonderful, millions of people tune in and the Brazilian GP was the most-watched sports event of last year.

"You might say ITV would rather bad-mouth it because they've just lost the rights but on the one hand they're saying straightforward commercial decision.

"But on the other plenty of people are saying that having spent a decade broadcasting when a German, a Finn and a Spaniard were winning world titles, it seems a bit curious [for ITV] to pull out when a Brit is on the verge of winning it."

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