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Olympic Torch
« on: April 06, 2008, 11:29:04 »
What a nightmare, seemed more protesters than supporters. To be fair it lookes a real mess as they ran through london with it.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 11:45:23 »
In my humble opinion.......................its a total farce! Because we are next up we have to be seen to support the chinese which is wrong, they should not have the games!! and as for the London ones  :troll: don't get me started!!!

They are building a new shooting place which will be torn down when they finish because of the stupid gun laws in this country, there has been all sorts of rumours about a huge mosque (i THINK thats an urban myth??) and they are ploughing millions into this when we really need that investment elsewhere in the country
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 15:00:36 »
The one we are hosting should have gone to France, they have the infrastructure and facilites already built. We don't. We won't.

It is going be a sad farce.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 15:32:17 »
just think t5 and that was a small place compaired to the size of the olympics. it wil be a world wide laugh at the uk again
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 17:02:55 »
It just looks like a running pitched battle!

Reminds me of a Friday night at work!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 21:10:51 »
now I'm pretty happy go lucky kind of guy but I couldn't believe it today, how f%%%%ing dare a British policeman, running alongside the torch and it accompanying chinese "escort" (almost certainly chinese coppers) "body check" people out of the way whilst on a british f&&&&ing road.

rant over, and I'm usually the one rolling my eyes at such rants!!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 21:20:18 »
All this talk about  'Free Tibet'... where do i get mine?    I'd settle for a free pizza right now :)











Seriously though ,before anyone complains,what are china doing there anyway?Just strategically withdraw would be the sensible option in this day and age.
Hmmm dont think the u.s. are pushing the issue though.

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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 22:54:05 »
Quote from: crazymac on April 06, 2008, 11:45:23


They are building a new shooting place which will be torn down when they finish because of the stupid gun laws in this country,

 and they are ploughing millions into this when we really need that investment elsewhere in the country

Good point! How can we hold a shooting comp when guns are band!?

9 Million for the statium, 6 of which WE are finding and I HATE the stuffing games!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 23:40:54 »
Quote from: defuzz on April 06, 2008, 21:10:51
now I'm pretty happy go lucky kind of guy but I couldn't believe it today, how f%%%%ing dare a British policeman, running alongside the torch and it accompanying chinese "escort" (almost certainly chinese coppers) "body check" people out of the way whilst on a british f&&&&ing road.

rant over, and I'm usually the one rolling my eyes at such rants!!

They can do it because you are no longer allowed to protest in this country!! If you are within a square kilometre of Parliament you MUST get permission to protest, Below is an excerpt from a BBC web site.

"An exception to this was introduced as a part of the Serious and Organised Crime and Police Act 2005. This act bans people from demonstrating in any area designated by the government."

So straight away, things like " greenham common" wouldn't be allowed to happen these days! if you want to protest inside a square kilometer of parliament, you need to ask permission!! [Edited] I thought parliament was OURS!! the politicians work for us, but we are restricted access to them!! We are not allowed to protest near them!! WHY?

They tell us its for national security, which it probably was, but you can bet that they would use this against us? That is why there are no fuel price protests going on! they will not get permission!


and we talk about the chinese abuse of human rights!! Does anyone know who the last politician was that banned hand guns and fox hunting???? NO???

It was HITLER!! he banned handguns so the peasants couldn't rise against him! makes you feel nice about our government dunnit!!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 23:58:02 »
Olympics, it will end up a farce, I mean lets face it they can't even get pushing a few bags round a airport right. I mean thats not excatly differcult is it.

Take bag of people, put on tolley, put on aircraft, simple.  :shocked:
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 01:51:27 »
Quote from: SEDDEY on April 06, 2008, 22:54:05
Quote from: crazymac on April 06, 2008, 11:45:23


They are building a new shooting place which will be torn down when they finish because of the stupid gun laws in this country,

 and they are ploughing millions into this when we really need that investment elsewhere in the country

Good point! How can we hold a shooting comp when guns are band!?

9 Million for the statium, 6 of which WE are finding and I HATE the stuffing games!

Does this mean the british olympic shooting team will have to hand themselves into police at the endd of the games? as it is they have to practice abroad.  It's perverse.

We can at least guarantee that we won't win any medlas in shooting, they'll go to countries where the sport has not been criminalised.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 09:16:18 »
I cant wait for Chineese to block the "british olympic torch" due to our invasion of Iraq. I wonder how many of the people who agree (or even paticipated) buy  Chineese manufactured goods that we insisit on importning (outsourcing our polution to China) and undermining Bristish manufacturing. The only way to vote in teh UK is with your wallet.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 09:35:39 »
Quote from: Boggert on April 06, 2008, 17:02:55
It just looks like a running pitched battle!

Reminds me of a Friday night at work!

LOL  :D
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 09:59:27 »
Quote from: TDi90 on April 07, 2008, 09:35:39
Quote from: Boggert on April 06, 2008, 17:02:55
It just looks like a running pitched battle!

Reminds me of a Friday night at work!

LOL  :D

I have to say that I for sure would not have been taking part in the Policing of that protest. The reasons being that I haven't run for many years, and I don't intend to start now. Secondly, I would not have looked good in all that nice Lycra Police cycling gear. Yuk!
It does smack of double standards, but it is difficult now to find a way to protest against the Government of China, considering how much of a stake that they, along with our Russian 'friends', have in the industry and infrastructure of this country.
Due to lax policies over the years, we are no longer able to send a few gunboats up Yangtze river. We might be able to muster a couple of rowing boats from the local boating lake, providing they have not been pre-booked for that weekend.

A few years ago I was involved with, along with several thousand others, the policing of the Anti War Protests and the G8 summit.
Even I was concerned at how the legislation brought in to combat terrorism, was being twisted to suit the needs of the time. It raised a lot of moral questions for me.

A little quote to ponder over.

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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 15:30:00 »
LOL @ LSP :lol: :lol: 

"nice Lycra Police cycling gear"  admit it, you want some, but the bosses won't let you use it for private useage  [-X [-X

What we do have to remember as well though, is don't blame the police for doing what they are told to do! blame the organ grinder for getting them into this position! cos you can bet that if someone gets hurt, it won't be the organ grinder gets the blame!!

Same as our military over in Iraq etc, they are only obeying orders!! its there job!

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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 15:37:17 »
think we should have a 4x4 olympics!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2008, 16:10:46 »
Quote from: Rasbo on April 07, 2008, 15:37:17
think we should have a 4x4 olympics!

In China!

I was watching a report today about the Olympics. Apparently the authorities in Beijing count the number of 'Blue Sky Days' they have, namely when the sky is not obscured by smog. So far this year, there have not been many.There are a number of marathon runners threatening to pull out unless something is done about the pollution, as it will cause major issues re training.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008, 16:13:50 »
Quote from: crazymac on April 07, 2008, 15:30:00
LOL @ LSP :lol: :lol: 

"nice Lycra Police cycling gear"  admit it, you want some, but the bosses won't let you use it for private useage  [-X [-X



No honestly, 18 months of desk work means I'm seriously out of condition. If I was to put black lycra cycling gear on I would look like an overly large black pudding, and may well be arrested for breaching laws regarding obscenities in a public place! :shocked:
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 23:41:09 »
Quote from: TDi90 on April 07, 2008, 09:35:39
Quote from: Boggert on April 06, 2008, 17:02:55
It just looks like a running pitched battle!

Reminds me of a Friday night at work!

LOL  :D

It's a bit like our Waiting Room too on Friday & Saturday nights!
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 01:18:34 »
Quote from: Lord Shagg-Pyle on April 07, 2008, 16:13:50
Quote from: crazymac on April 07, 2008, 15:30:00
LOL @ LSP :lol: :lol: 

"nice Lycra Police cycling gear"  admit it, you want some, but the bosses won't let you use it for private useage  [-X [-X



No honestly, 18 months of desk work means I'm seriously out of condition. If I was to put black lycra cycling gear on I would look like an overly large black pudding, and may well be arrested for breaching laws regarding obscenities in a public place! :shocked:

You bragging or complaining LSP ?  :shock:

Just a thought, but shouldn't all these protests have taken place BEFORE the Olympics were given to China ?
It's a bit late now I think.....  :-k
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 11:32:43 »
To quote the Tim Robbins character in Team America:

"Its all about the corporations, who sit there in their big corporation buildings, being all corporationy"

It makes perfect sense to me. :undecided:
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 20:49:12 »
I thought UK couldn't look any more silly after the Dome - how wrong can a person be?!  The jogging Smurf's looked to be instructing British Police on what to do - how did that happen?!  Now that the Olympics has been politicised as a social inclusion policy - the man is right - the only way to vote IS with your wallet!  Attached list of official sponsors http://en.beijing2008.cn/bocog/sponsors/sponsors/  [-X 
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 21:03:07 »
Quote from: R2D2 on April 08, 2008, 20:49:12
I thought UK couldn't look any more silly after the Dome - how wrong can a person be?!  The jogging Smurf's looked to be instructing British Police on what to do - how did that happen?!  Now that the Olympics has been politicised as a social inclusion policy - the man is right - the only way to vote IS with your wallet!  Attached list of official sponsors http://en.beijing2008.cn/bocog/sponsors/sponsors/  [-X 

Oh now I was wondering what was going on...

Today I was chasing a local sc... lad who had been nicking for a corner shop when these two Chinese blokes in blue tracksuits started running beside me telling me what to do, is was a tad confused especially when he tried to hand me his zippo! :D :D

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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 21:04:22 »
Quote from: R2D2 on April 08, 2008, 20:49:12
I thought UK couldn't look any more silly after the Dome - how wrong can a person be?!  The jogging Smurf's looked to be instructing British Police on what to do - how did that happen?!  Now that the Olympics has been politicised as a social inclusion policy - the man is right - the only way to vote IS with your wallet!  Attached list of official sponsors http://en.beijing2008.cn/bocog/sponsors/sponsors/  [-X 

Interesting to note that two of the worlds healthy eating manufacturers are in there.

I can just see it know

"Hi, I won Gold at the Olympics thanks to Coca Cola and McDonalds"

Two products I won't buy out of principle anyway.
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Re: Olympic Torch
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 21:11:42 »
Quote from: Boggert on April 08, 2008, 21:03:07
Quote from: R2D2 on April 08, 2008, 20:49:12
I thought UK couldn't look any more silly after the Dome - how wrong can a person be?!  The jogging Smurf's looked to be instructing British Police on what to do - how did that happen?!  Now that the Olympics has been politicised as a social inclusion policy - the man is right - the only way to vote IS with your wallet!  Attached list of official sponsors http://en.beijing2008.cn/bocog/sponsors/sponsors/  [-X 

Oh now I was wondering what was going on...

Today I was chasing a local sc... lad who had been nicking for a corner shop when these two Chinese blokes in blue tracksuits started running beside me telling me what to do, is was a tad confused especially when he tried to hand me his zippo! :D :D



Very good! Are you sure it wasn't one of those lighters shaped like a pistol, that was in fact a pistol?

I did a course a few years ago to do with Public Order Policing. There was a guy on the course who was from the Hong Kong Police. Very nice chap, but he got very dismissive when it came to the bit about considering the protestors human rights. His answer to everything was to either shoot it, bulldoze it or drive a tank through it.
As far as he was concerned, anyone who broke the law deserved what they got.
I asked him about the 'Interview technique' that is used in HK. He had a slight grin on his face when he said no one ever denied the offence for which they had been arrested. Very scary :shock:
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