legalities of a stick on number plate

[flash42]

considering replacing my current number plate, (which is on the bumper and has already got a chip in it from some off roading) with a stick on number plate on the front of the bonnet. is this legal, and where can i get one from.

cheers

flash

[Artwigwa]

I don't think stick on number plates are made anymore as there not legal, why not use sticky pads on your plate on the bonnet? but then if it faces up wards MOT man will prob moan   :roll:  I have seen number plates fitted on one of the bulkhead vent flaps...

[Bob696]

.....I have seen number plates fitted on one of the bulkhead vent flaps...

Like on mine (and its a trimmed sticky) .... passed 3 MOTs and never been pulled for it.
M8 has a full size one fitted to his vent but he cant open it anymore :shock:

[flash42]

so as long as it faces forward its ok.
even if it is sticky.

[Disco 90 george]

Ive got the holes in the bumper for a plate but have put a stick on one on the bonnet, got it from ebag.

[Range Rover Blues]

The sticker type stick on ones are no longer leagl as they aren't reflective enough (for a speeding camera :roll:) so if you stick one on it has to look like it's been there years, even then you might get a tug.

[tack43]

I put mine on the front panel between grill and number plate. Put it back on bumper for MOT ;)

[Lumbering Jack]

I cable tied mine to the grill and it's stayed in one piece so far

[3laner]

Id say cable tied to the grill is the best option as stick ons are apparently illegal. Ive had mine on the grill for a while it just keeps it that little bit higher out of harms way.

[Tommo]

this is my stick on, If i ever get done for it then ill think about a normal one. if it fails MOT then ill fit a normal one then take it off. sick of smashing them.

[richo]

I have just ordered one to be made by a sigh writing firm i know where i live and i will be siting it the same as tommos.
The guy who is making it said that he will use the reflective backing so to try and be as legal as possible.
If any ones interested in getting one made the company is call Richard Clues signs in Peterborough 01733 319331.
This is the first one i think he's done on a landy so you might need to give him some measurements.
He's quite good at making any type of stickers or signs you might need for your landy.
Me and my dad have used him for years with any sign writing with ours work vans

[Range Rover Blues]

Measurement, EEEK, there is a legal standard size for both number plate and letters.

[tjolliffe]

I've  got one in the same place as tommo, didnt have a problem with the last MOT i put it in for...

[HiFonics]

The current regulations on number plates can be found here --> http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf

Stick on number plates as they dont comply with BSAU145D

Ben

[Tommo]

I got mine from a local motor factors, they stocked them for trailers and the like but had some white backings kicking around, cost me a fiver in total.

[mroxo]

I got a fail on mine last Nov on the MOT due to the new regs. Must be reflective and have bs number printed on it as well as the details of the maker of the plate. Bloody EU interference again :roll:

[ian_s]

personally i think its a damn good idea that number plates should be visible and readable.

unless you have something to hide that is

[Tommo]

yeah it is.  i dont have awt to hide but im no fan of no plate recognition cameras.

these are the plates on my other car...

[SteveG]

I got a fail on mine last Nov on the MOT due to the new regs. Must be reflective and have bs number printed on it as well as the details of the maker of the plate. Bloody EU interference again :roll:

can't have failed for the last two as this would require everyone with plates made before this requirement came in to change them out for new ones to pass an MOT.

Steve

[redhand]

I got a fail on mine last Nov on the MOT due to the new regs. Must be reflective and have bs number printed on it as well as the details of the maker of the plate. Bloody EU interference again :roll:

can't have failed for the last two as this would require everyone with plates made before this requirement came in to change them out for new ones to pass an MOT.

Steve

All vehicles registered after 1st Sept 2001 must have plates fitted which meet the new regulations. So they will fail you for the last two items on the previous post.

This is from the MOT testers manual.
3. On vehicles first registered on or after 1 September 2001, check that the registration plates
a. display the name and postcode of the supplying outlet
b. display a BSAU145d marking
c. do not display a honeycomb or similar effect background
4. Refer to pages 4 - 6 and check visually that the characters are correctly formed, spaced, and are not obviously likely to be misread due to, for example, badly positioned or uncovered retaining bolts etc.

The site is here and is very useful as it lists the full MOT testers manual as supplied to testing stations by VOSA. If it isn't in the manual they can't test it or fail it. http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm

[4 landies]

 So are they illegal on trailers or caravans as i have seen alot with the sticky ones including my caravan and does that mean I can speed through cameras when towing and not get caught ( who am I kidding towing a 23 ft caravan with a deisel disco )

[redhand]

So are they illegal on trailers or caravans as i have seen alot with the sticky ones including my caravan and does that mean I can speed through cameras when towing and not get caught ( who am I kidding towing a 23 ft caravan with a deisel disco )

If the trailer or caravan was made after 1/9/01 then it must have the correct plates. As it's been illegal in england  & wales to sell non compliant plates since that date, However in scotland the regs don't apply so if you bought the plates while you were on hols in jockland. then there's nothing plod can do about it.

[Saffy]

yeah it is.  i dont have awt to hide but im no fan of no plate recognition cameras.

these are the plates on my other car...

The system is multi font capable.

[Tommo]

Oh im not saying that number plate recognition things will not pick it up. and thats not the reason i have them, they were on it when i got it. but the only reason i can see the police caring is because of no plate recognition. to the human eye they are fine to read.

[redhand]

I think the illegal spacing of the numbers is probably more likley to be the main reason for stopping you. Surely the number should be F255AOM

[Tommo]

yes very true. but the spacing and stuff is all there because of speed cameras etc. if they werent about it makes no difference what the spacing is.

[lee celtic]

I have a stick on plate , it's on proper spec reflective white stuff with proper spacing and proper letters...

The only thing it dosen't have is the bs number and we know  what bs stands for ;)

The thing is I've just checked the rest of the plates on the other cars and none of them have these either :?

[redhand]

I have a stick on plate , it's on proper spec reflective white stuff with proper spacing and proper letters...

The only thing it dosen't have is the bs number and we know  what bs stands for ;)

The thing is I've just checked the rest of the plates on the other cars and none of them have these either :?

If they were fitted pre 01/09/2001.  Then they don't need them

[Saffy]

When I had to get plates made up last time I had to prove ownership of vehicle by way of the V5 and my passport !

In order for a set of acrylic numberplates to be made for you in Wales or England you now have to prove your legal entitlement to them and provide a visual identification check at the point of sale.The regulations regarding the supply of an acrylic number plate arise from the Vehicles (Crime) Act 2001.

In September 1998, the Vehicle Crime Reduction Action Team [VCRAT] was established by the Home Office to develop and implement a strategy to meet the Government target to reduce vehicle crime by 30% by 2004. VCRAT recommended the introduction of a statutory registration scheme to control the supply of acrylic number plates. This scheme is designed to make it more difficult for thieves who put fake number plates on stolen vehicles to make them appear legitimate. It will be more difficult for criminals to get acrylic number plates because they will need to provide proof that they are entitled to them.

The regulations regarding the supply of acrylic number plates in England and Wales came into force on the 1st January 2003. From that date all number plate suppliers in England and Wales are required by law to register their details with DVLA. From that date a business will be unable to trade as a supplier unless it is registered.

Anyway after relocating the plate about half a dozen times - it is currently living on my winch cover - though mounted at a slight angle and reduced length (though I think it maintains legal border)


have had it here...


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not forgetting the times I had in prop'd up on dashboard.

[mudplugger01]

at the moment there is a special notice out cancelling the requirements for bs numbers,postcode requirements etc ..until further notice