engine options

[Lumbering Jack]

Hi guys,

I'll be picking up a N/A 110 hi cap next week with a suspected big end failure and was wondering what my best option would be to do engines wise?

I don't really want to go down the disco 200/300 engine particularly (fancied something different for a change), was thinking either rebuild the N/A, drop a replacement  N/A in or maybe even a V8 on gas.  It won't be doing lots of road miles - replacing the 130 with this 110 and a disco (which'll do more of the road work.)

I really like the V8 idea but don't know how simple it is to make the engine fit?

What's your thoughts?

[Hangover]

My thought is stick with what was fitted or fit Tdi,can't see point of putting v8 in it,all that work sourcing a good engine the fitting gas which will only be troublesome,keep it simple.

[Range Rover Blues]

Hi Jack, stick a V8 in it on LPG.  I can help you out with a good engine to get you started, possibly an EFi setup too.  You could probably run a Disco transfer box for the economy at the same time, unless you have big tyres or tow a lot.

You'd need an appropriate gearbox or modify the tunnel to move the gearstick backwards and fit a Disco box (you'd need Disco props too).

If you arer serious I have lots of the bits you need just at the moment ;)

[Lumbering Jack]

My thought is stick with what was fitted or fit Tdi,can't see point of putting v8 in it,all that work sourcing a good engine the fitting gas which will only be troublesome,keep it simple.

The 110 will be more of a working toy so just fancied something a bit different is all - The only other 4x4 to really make me smile on the road was the old HJ60 Landcruiser I had with a straight 6 4ltr Diesel in it so wanted something Big Bore to play with again  [-o<

Hi Jack, stick a V8 in it on LPG.  I can help you out with a good engine to get you started, possibly an EFi setup too.  You could probably run a Disco transfer box for the economy at the same time, unless you have big tyres or tow a lot.

You'd need an appropriate gearbox or modify the tunnel to move the gearstick backwards and fit a Disco box (you'd need Disco props too).

If you arer serious I have lots of the bits you need just at the moment ;)

That could come in quite handy and you're not a million miles away  :dance:  How easy would it be to put an auto box in at the same time and would that make it any simpler?  (i think I read somewhere about the auto box being cable operated, just leaving hi/lo/difff to sort?)  May end up with big wheels rather than disco transfer box but not just sure yet.  Would the EFI be simple to fit? I'm o.k with mechanical things but not so great with electrical things  :doh:

[Range Rover Blues]

Auto box is a good idea yes, AFAIK it's cable operated so that would help and TBH I'm going to fit an auto myself for off-roading so I couldn't agree more.

The transfer box lever operates through a set of linkages anyway, so it wouldn't be rocket science to locate that exactly where you wanted it :)

EFi, I might have an EFi loom spare somewhere, you only "need" about 4 wires connected, though there are about 7.  I can tell you what all these are and how to connect them, the loom only really connects to the car itself in the driver's footwell but you would need to fit an aftermarket 35psi fuel pump (TVR, morgan etc.).

I'll pm you some contact details if you want more info.

[ian_s]

i was looking into doing something similar, 110 hi cap pickup, V8, autobox, LPG
the way fuel prices are going, its cheaper to run a v8 with LPG than it is to run a diesel. lots more fun too :D

[Lumbering Jack]

i was looking into doing something similar, 110 hi cap pickup, V8, autobox, LPG
the way fuel prices are going, its cheaper to run a v8 with LPG than it is to run a diesel. lots more fun too :D

Yep, my thoughts exactly  :dance:

[Lumbering Jack]

I'll pm you some contact details if you want more info.

Thanks for PM, will be in touch,

Chris

[Lumbering Jack]

Hard to believe how much time has passed since I first started this thread - Finally in a position to look at making a start on the 110 - only 6 months later than anticipated!  :oops:

Quick update - I seem to be stuck with the 130, the disco is now fairly rotten and the 110 still needs an engine.  To throw a spanner in, the V8 RRC with lpg that I had in my mind to use the engine and box from is now available to me at a very cheap price if I'm quick - does want a new torque converter apparently though.

For what I'll get for the 130, I'm thinking of breaking it and using parts to rebuild the 110 and am possibly considering going down the galvy chassis route too.  Engine wise, I've the 300 engine from the 130, the 200 engine from the disco (very fit) or the one I still really want - the 3.9 efi auto from the RRC

I'm looking to create a vehicle that I'll hopefully keep a long while and it will get used for a bit of everything - RTV's, daily driver challenges, laning, camping (relaible/smooth enough for some long distance work to)

Common sense says go with the 300 engine, though the 200 feels fitter (might be due to the difference in weight between the two vehicles) but as it's not going to get used a lot during the week I do still fancy the V8 and re-fit the gas. 

The bodywork on the 130's pretty good and also there's the disc back axle and huge front calipers which could make it's way on too.

Back on track;

1) how big a job is it to build up from a brand new chassis?
2) if you were in this situation, which engine would you fit?
3) if at a later date I wanted to go from hi cap to hard top would it affect anything enough to need an SVA?

Any thoughts on the above greatly welcomed!
 

[william127]

why are you getting rid of the 130, there the coolest of all 4x4, espeially as l200 and navara drivers seem phisically scared of them :)?

[Porny]

For what I'll get for the 130, I'm thinking of breaking it and using parts to rebuild the 110

If you decide to try and sell the 130 as is... give me a shout.

I would also be interested in 'everything' that's left over... especially the chassis and ID, the roof and body etc etc.  Or could do you a swap for other panels for your 110.


Ian

[Lumbering Jack]

why are you getting rid of the 130, there the coolest of all 4x4, espeially as l200 and navara drivers seem phisically scared of them :)?

 I packed up working for myself (firewood and forestry mainly) and haven't really got any need for something as big as the 130 - I did really quite like the look on peoples faces when it would follow most other "conventional" off roaders - It just suffers with the long wheelbase - belly and turning circle. I'd quite like to have built a 130 hard top or king cab but in the end it would still be a 130 and a bit big for most stuff.  Going 6x6 would get around the bellying issue and I'd really like the idea but reckon cost would be quite a lot.

If you decide to try and sell the 130 as is... give me a shout.

I would also be interested in 'everything' that's left over... especially the chassis and ID, the roof and body etc etc.  Or could do you a swap for other panels for your 110.

Ian

Thanks Ian, that's worth knowing.  I could maybe be tempted to part with it as is - it would make me a bit more room for me to work at home - the only downside would be that I'd need to buy in quite a bit of stuff that I could at the moment rob off the 130.

It wants a little bit of work on the back cross member and I was going to re bush a few bits of the suspension but other than that it's as I was using it (I have taken the knackred quadtec box off though and weighed it in)

one way or another I reckon we can sort something  :D

[william127]

the turning circle is a bit of a problem, especially if you use it as a "car" like i do, the consant wheel turninig in car parks means iv had to replace the front  tyres after just 10 thousand miles :roll:

[Porny]

Thanks Ian, that's worth knowing.  I could maybe be tempted to part with it as is - it would make me a bit more room for me to work at home - the only downside would be that I'd need to buy in quite a bit of stuff that I could at the moment rob off the 130.

It wants a little bit of work on the back cross member and I was going to re bush a few bits of the suspension but other than that it's as I was using it (I have taken the knackred quadtec box off though and weighed it in)

one way or another I reckon we can sort something  :D

If you let me know what parts you would be after we might be able to sort something out....  I quite fancy a 130  :D

Its not a problem for me to get hold of body panels etc etc (most of them will be later Td5 - so all in very good/mint condition) - or even swap it in exchange/part payment for work on the 110 (i.e. fitting your V8 etc etc)

Just another option for you to think about lol....


Ian

[adafish]

i'll have the roof........is it me or is the clock on here all to cock

[Lumbering Jack]

If you let me know what parts you would be after we might be able to sort something out....  I quite fancy a 130  :D

Its not a problem for me to get hold of body panels etc etc (most of them will be later Td5 - so all in very good/mint condition) - or even swap it in exchange/part payment for work on the 110 (i.e. fitting your V8 etc etc)

Just another option for you to think about lol....


Ian

Reckon the parts route might be easiest as you're a fair way away from here - I'll get some photos sorted out in the next few days and PM you  :D

i'll have the roof........is it me or is the clock on here all to cock

It's a single cab unfortunately - but yes I thought the clock was out too  

Still bouncing ideas about at the mo over the best way to approach it all  -basically I want to end up with a decent V8 hard top (or SW) 110, and not have the disco or the 130 sat about - with the proceeds of the 130 and disco going a long way towards the building of the 110.  In an ideal world I'd have sold all three and pooled the funds together but stuff doesn't seem to be selling great at the mo - especially commercial stuff.

Are there any problems from a DVLA point of view as to going from a hi cap to a hard top?

[gt.jacko]

Hi I,m in the process of starting to put a 4.2 rangie engine and autobox in my 90 so we are in the same boat as it had a 200tdi in it, decided I wanted more fun from my landy and as the rangie I bought also has gas I will be fitting that too looking forward to getting stuck in in new yr if you need any help let me know I,m in Glossop derbys.

Cheers
           Gaz

[Lumbering Jack]

Nice 1 - not a million miles away then - no doubt there'll be questions a plenty  :oops:

All being well the rangie should turn up tomorrow  :dance: - need to hunt down a torque converter now though.   :-k

[gt.jacko]

I,ll ask around for a torque converter a friend of mines son has got a 90 with a 3.9 efi with a rangie auto box I,m off to look at the installation of it in new yr will ask if he has a spare torque converter for you as he has a lot of spares lying around.

Gary ...  :)

[Lumbering Jack]

That'd be great - it could possibly need a gearbox too in the near future  :doh: 

Going to start stripping the front end of the 110 down ready for the transplant - most likely going to swap bulkhead whilst am on and give a bit more room to work. at the same time.

 :D

[gt.jacko]

ok will look out for g/box then, I have a spare transfer box but thats all in the transmission side of things, have a complete range rover for spares if u need any other bits let me know.
Obviously missing engine and box :)