whats reliable then guys

[Boggert]

I have a Terrano II, as a rule its as reliable and starts on the dot.

However did have to have a new turbo fitted but the guy fitting it said he was amazed he had never had a Terrano in with a problem like it, normally it just landrovers.

The Terrano II 2.7 TDi is the same engine as a London taxi (black cab) and is good for 250K as long as you look after it, there is lots of access in the engine bay so home maintenance is fairly easy.

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

is the ford maverik the same , see they do a 2.7 intercooled on they do look narrow . do they handle o.k, (comparing with a disco not a car ;)).. i do miss me sierra . was so reliable and solid just not big enough or up to the job ..alan....

Yep the Maverick is the same car with same engine, You can buy my Y reg T2 60K, set of AT's, full leather, electric everything, aircon etc etc... You can have it for £5K

Handles very well, its like any 4x4 don't drive it like a Ferrari

[The Fat Controller]

in my signature you see duck and diesel
diesel is used off road and runs a nissan 6 cylinder turbo diesel unit mated to its 5 speed manual gearbox.goes were ever i point it and the only damage over the last year was a steering arm that looked like a horse shoe.
dave is the disco and is powered by a 2.5 td 4 cylinder land rover engine mated to an auto box.dave is my every day motor so uses tarmac and green lanes every day even if i have to leave early to get to work on time.dave after over a year of brian abuse now needs new front swivels which are siting in my tool box waiting for me to do it.
duck is powered by your friendly v8 3500cc and an auto box.he used to be the daily drive and even thou he carries 150 litres of lpg underneath when fully loaded he did everything that dave now does.the only things he's ever had is the heads skimmed,valve seats recut and all refitted as after over two years of constant brian abuse the water loss was causing number one cylinder to run very hot.
all i can say is motors need to be used otherwise they sulk,if they sulk they play up and need repairs.
tango is the one that proves this statement as he only goes out when i can find another driver and trailer so if i don't disconnect the battery he drains it to the point of no return and has to have a new one.now he wants a power steering pump because he's sulking over being left all alone with the tacr2 who likes sitting there looking important.
if you count up i have now mentioned 5 motors.the sixth motor is a shy series 2a who sits at the back of the shed and goes across the fields now and again when he's borrowed by the shot gun brigade

[bilge rat]

I have a Terrano II, as a rule its as reliable and starts on the dot.

However did have to have a new turbo fitted but the guy fitting it said he was amazed he had never had a Terrano in with a problem like it, normally it just landrovers.

The Terrano II 2.7 TDi is the same engine as a London taxi (black cab) and is good for 250K as long as you look after it, there is lots of access in the engine bay so home maintenance is fairly easy.

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

is the ford maverik the same , see they do a 2.7 intercooled on they do look narrow . do they handle o.k, (comparing with a disco not a car ;)).. i do miss me sierra . was so reliable and solid just not big enough or up to the job ..alan....

Yep the Maverick is the same car with same engine, You can buy my Y reg T2 60K, set of AT's, full leather, electric everything, aircon etc etc... You can have it for £5K

Handles very well, its like any 4x4 don't drive it like a Ferrari

thanks but 5k idont have anything near . was toying with about 2.5 to 3 max depending on or iff i get rid of red... is the teranno shorter and higher than a disco . can get red in me garage. parking is ltd so iff one would fit would be a bonus ..cheers . alan.....

[Boggert]

I can get mine in the garage no problems, to be fair for £2.5K to 3K will get you a good solid car.

[marjan]

tell that to the local farmers. one of em is nearly 70 and he wont drive anything other than a 90. if its too uncomfortable then you are misusing it!

I don't call just driving 45 miles on normal roads "Misusing it"

[Bush Tucker Man]

Having a 90 for only six months was more than enough for me, unreliable, uncomfortable, poor heater, noisy and draughty. I now have a SWB 3.0 V6 LPG Shogun and it's lovely

I didn't know that you'd separated!

No wonder I've not seen it near where you live


As for the topic in hand................................

Bar my first Landie (a 2A Light-Weight, which gave a bad name to 'sheds' everywhere), I only had real problems with one of the others, guess which one

1. 1994 'L' registered 110Tdi Hard-Top (owned October 1997 - July 2001)
300Tdi. 50,000miles in my ownership.
Plus points; Some hard use at pay & play days, our only vehicle at the time, probably averaged 30 - 32MPG in that time, towed artics at times.
Problems? 4 new wheel-bearings (ruined at Tong by deep wading), new indicator stalk (burnt out), new tyres at 70,000miles (replacing the original Avon Rangemasters)


2. 1989 'E' registered 90V8-CSW (owned August 2001 - October 2002)
Factory built V8-CSW. 10,000miles in my ownership.
Plus points;Great noise, scared the daylights out of the B*W & Saxo brigade
Problems? Had a LPG conversion, ran atrociously ever after - wouldn't start on petrol when warm, wouldn't run properly on either when weather cold, 15MPG was a good day around town, but conversely 9MPG when towing the BWSOW in the LakeDistrict!


3. 1998 'S' registered Discovery 50th Anniversary (December 2002 - December 2005
300Tdi manual. 50,000miles in my ownership.
Plus points;Supremely capable in all aspects; from M-way travelling to towing a 1600kg twin-axle BWSOW to shifting 26 tonners, 7 seats when needed, 33MPG average, air-con to keep the wife cool, decent turning circle/manoeuvrability, it looked different enough to other Discoverys to keep me smiling.
Problems? One snapped rear shock-absorber, one puncture, a leaking windscreen, galvanitic corrosion where the mud-flap mounts bolt to the rear wing, saggy rear door hinges


4 1999 'V' registered 110 Heritage (December 2005 - present)
Td5. 22,000miles in my ownership (so far)
Plus points; The 'Icon' (what people think of as the 'Safari'), decent engine, average of 27 - 30MPG, towed up to 16 tons easily (so far......................), 11 seats (came in handy a couple of times), leather seats are more kid/Dog- proof than cloth, legible instrumentation at night (even a tachometer as standard fitting!), no oil-leaks - Yet!!, most people who go in it love it!, comfortable seating (in front only), with the rear seats folded it doubles as a 'removal van'.
Problems? Water leaks (it enters somewhere & runs around the internal 'guttering', behind the head-lining, before wetting your trousers), too low geared for m-way driving, I keep expecting to come back to it & find the model specific grille missing, steering lock could be better (contemplating putting it on 'Modular' steel wheels, for more off-set, hence greater lock)

[alaric]

Reliable?
PUSHBIKE

Yeah, right, have you any idea the amount of time and money it takes to keep a decent bike running, if it's used off road. In the UK the mud kills drivetrain like nobodies business, here in Greece everything gets shaken and battered to death!

£300 or so for a rear shock, £300 or so for a front fork, £150+ for a decent wheel, £150 an end for decent brakes....

Joking aside, for reliability you need to be thinking Japanese. I know there are reliable Land Rovers out there, but finding them can be, well, unreliable...


I think the problem with the cracked heads that you hear about sometimes both on Mitsi and Toyota diesel engines is blown out of proportion - they rarely go wrong, it's just that when they do a high percentage of the failures are a cracked head - but only a small percentage fail at all. I think that makes sense...

Like any other second hand car purchase there are plenty of bad ones out there, but that's usually down to bad maintenance by an owner at some point, check service history etc. as you would for any car purchase and you should be able to find the right car.

I know that the value of second had Pajeros is dropping as the market reaches saturation, that's probably a good place to start. I prefer my Land Cruiser to my old Pajero, but it cost a lot more. Pajeros are very good value.

Good luck!

Alaric.

[Popoff]

 get a Fourtrak very reliable just ask any farmer :lol:

[bilge rat]

actually you say fourtrack , im from village near harborough and a lot of farmers use fourtracks round here. just not big enough for what i need . by the time the kids, mrs and dog are in, then all there kit they seem to take anywhere .think it would be a right game ...alan.

[Bush Tucker Man]

Reliable?
PUSHBIKE

Yeah, right, have you any idea the amount of time and money it takes to keep a decent bike running, if it's used off road. In the UK the mud kills drivetrain like nobodies business, here in Greece everything gets shaken and battered to death!

£300 or so for a rear shock, £300 or so for a front fork, £150+ for a decent wheel, £150 an end for decent brakes....

I'll agree on the price of decent wheels.
I had a pair built back in about 1993 for the Pace Research RC100 I owned then & (non-cycling) friends wouldn't believe me when I told them how much I paid


Now that I want a Trek (carbon-fibre) road-bike to replace my titanium, & ance again, friends are astonished at the price of the Madone range :roll:

[Bush Tucker Man]

3. 1998 'S' registered Discovery 50th Anniversary (December 2002 - December 2005
300Tdi manual. 50,000miles in my ownership.
Plus points;Supremely capable in all aspects; from M-way travelling to towing a 1600kg twin-axle BWSOW to shifting 26 tonners, 7 seats when needed, 33MPG average, air-con to keep the wife cool, decent turning circle/manoeuvrability, it looked different enough to other Discoverys to keep me smiling.
Problems? One snapped rear shock-absorber, one puncture, a leaking windscreen, galvanitic corrosion where the mud-flap mounts bolt to the rear wing, saggy rear door hinges

Forgot to mention the non-operable diff-lock lever when I bought it, it would go into low-range, but not into locking-mode
After a bit of consultation with this site, I made a trip to a gearbox reconditioners near Halifax, & bought a complete 'turret' for £5.00!!!!!!!

Once home, it took less than 30minutes to sort it, & then it worked perfectly to the day I sold it!

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