handling

[flipper]

whe driving my disco it seems to roll a lot i took a cornor the other day goin into the pub carpark yh i was goin a bit quick but got 2 wheels off the ground its not been lifted or anything can anybody give me any advice these things are all new to me

  mark

[lee celtic]

New springs transformed mine ..

[flipper]

i see you have lifted yours 2inch does that help the handling ??

[python]

i have lifted springs on mine, i wouldnt say they improve the handling as such, i think what lee was saying is maybe your prings are weak and a new set will sort your problem.

[flipper]

ive just been lookin for springs !!!!!!!!!!!!! whats the difference between springs for a  diesel and the springs for a petrol ??? :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k :-k




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[lee celtic]

I lifted mine by 2" but the new springs are much firmer and new damper also transformed the handling the body roll was drastically reduced and I can corner much faster and with more confidence however nearly four years on I think it is time for a new set as the roll is coming back slowly.. :roll:

I think the difference between petrol and diesel springs is that the diesel ones are of higher stiffness to cope with the heavier engine...

[flipper]

like i said befor all this is new to me im more used to lowerin not lifting lol if i wanted to do a lift what parts would i need ive seen lifting kits is everything inclueded in these ????

[lee celtic]

you don't need to lift just get some police spec springs (£50) standard height and these will make a big difference...

[Disco Matt]

Lifting it can make things worse - it's more than just longer springs and shocks. You may need things like castor correction radius arms, cranked trailing arms, different propshafts and new brake lines depending on how big a lift you have in mind.

Mine was transformed beyond recognition when I fitted a set of polybushes and some new shocks (de Carbon gas ones). Still standard height and it does still lean, but it feels a lot more collected and is far more predictable now.

[flipper]

was only thinkin of a 2 inch lift as would like to take it off road

[flipper]

where can i get police spec springs from ??are poly bushes hard to fit asin do i need a press ??

[SteveGoodz]

whe driving my disco it seems to roll a lot i took a cornor the other day goin into the pub carpark yh i was goin a bit quick but got 2 wheels off the ground its not been lifted or anything can anybody give me any advice these things are all new to me

  mark

Two bits of advice:

.1. remember you're driving a small truck not a hot hatchback ~ the Disco's centre of gravity is pretty high so inducing body roll is easy
.2. slow down ~ body roll is one thing but you managed to use up all of the suspension travel and then some if it went on 2 wheels

Just donning coat and leaving now  :lol: :lol:

[flipper]

i drive artics for a livin and i dont get as much roll on 1 of them that the worrying thing 

[spud the king]

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like i said befor all this is new to me im more used to lowerin not lifting

like me  :lol:

 on my old 200dti  i had the same  but put new 2"lift on and what a Difference
 not that hard as lowering  a car  as i did mine by my self   springs,shocks,brake pipes and dislocating cones but did not need caster arms ran fine    did it in a weekend

[Disco Matt]

As I understand it the Police Spec springs were just the standard Land Rover heavy duty ones. Polybushes can be difficult depending on the design - some are like conventional bushes and will need a press, others have a "split" design so you insert the two halves into opposite sides of the suspension component and press them in with a vice or clamp and a couple of bits of wood to protect the bush. Getting the old bushes out is likely to be more of a problem!

I would advise buying a replacement nut/bolt set as the originals are usually a swine to remove, this way you can take a grinder to the more stubborn ones. For a few £s it's worth it to avoid the hassle.

[stuvy]

Ive had my disco since november its lifted 2" and has standard brake lines, iv taken it off road at devils pit and we went every were even on the black routes, my truck is also running 33" tyres so id say you dont need extended brake lines but the decision is yours! it touches the standard bump stops way before it even gets close to stretching a hose, i know this because iv had it climbimbing over logs and axle twisters

[flipper]

so what parts are needed for a 2inch lift ??no point buyin half then finding i need to get more bit on a sunday when the shop is shut lol

[Ja1983]

i`d consider carefully what you want it for, road or off road. Mine has +2" springs (and with some each spring has a specific corner - see the 50 other posts abouts discos not sitting straight!) +2" shocks, ARB`s removed (to allow more travel) and 235/85/R16 tyres.

Its also got front correction bushes, and cranked rear arms, and is polybushed up.. all in all theres quite a few quid in the suspension, but it comes at another price - it does rolls a lot around corners, i`m used to it now, but you will notice it a lot more if your moving from a lowered car (i too went the same route) it also causes a few issues, last night i had to remove my front propshaft, as it was squeeling and vibrating badly, this is due to the lift changing the angle that the propshaft sits at, as a result, expect to replce prop UJ`s every 6mths or so..

I would check your budget, take it out for a play, and see what your problems are.. the first buy is usually a set of mud tyres, this will totally change its behaviour in the mud, but at a cost of road performance (especially on smooth wet roads - voice of experience!)

A standard disco doesnt perform too bad with a fair set of tyres. A a suspension lift is an expensive route to go down (cheapr kits can cost more in the long run), larger tyres will give you a small lift, but keep your suspension geomtry similar.

[Disco Matt]

A standard disco doesnt perform too bad with a fair set of tyres. A a suspension lift is an expensive route to go down (cheapr kits can cost more in the long run), larger tyres will give you a small lift, but keep your suspension geomtry similar.

My thoughts exactly - the only problems I have ever had with mine are that towbar and only having All Terrain tyres. Mind you, they only have problems with thick gloopy mud, and most of my local lanes are more a case of rock crawling. They're amazing on road too, so I'm not exactly running out to buy MTs!

[KingWolf]

I'm with Disco Matt on this one - I've only got A/T's fitted and the old girl just takes everything I've thrown at her in her stride. I've driven through some really thick deep mud where I've had the chassis on the ground and she still made it through without any problems.

The plough on the back is another problem altogether as I'm always hitting that on the deck.... :shock: :shock: and it makes me cringe everytime but I'm looking into options to sort that when the finances allow.

I've thought about going down the lift route myself but mainly for the cosmetic look, but I've been put off so far due to the potential stability issues and the fact I tow a caravan and need to keep the whole thing as safe on the road as possible.

Mark.

[Wireless]

I think the difference between petrol and diesel springs is that the diesel ones are of higher stiffness to cope with the heavier engine...

I'd have thought the V8 was heavier than the in-line four...

[Disco Matt]

Ah, but the V8 is all-alloy while the TDI is a heavy cast iron lump. I think the V8 is probably lighter, I know it was still recognised as one of the best engines out there (of all engines) in terms of power to weight a couple of years ago.

[Chris Putt]

My disco is very saggy on the rear end and very soft. i am planning on an 1nch lift, simply so I can fit larger tyres under it with some arch trimming.

Going to go for quite heavy duty springs to hopefully keep it firm for a good while.

With an inch lift you are still within the operating perameters for the props and the castor angle will not be too far out.

Fingers crossed +1 inch, with dislocation all round, +2 inch shocks and -2 towers and sock mounts should give me good suspension travel, still a relatively low C of G and reasonable road holding!!!


Thats the plan anyhoo!!!

Chris