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deisel to petrol
« on: June 04, 2008, 12:55:02 »
 I'm new to series landies so a bit of info please.

 Can anybody tell me if the 2.25 deisel and petrol use the same block and different heads , reason for asking just bought a lightweight with a deisel unit but log book says petrol as does the vin plate. the head is only placed on as if somebody has tried changing it.

 Any info would be great.
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 17:01:05 »
Hi 3 landies (good number of em i say!)
pretty similar design but lots of lil differences, no-one would bother changing a petrol to diesel really just dropped a new lump in it and not changed books! are there not the 3 bolts holding the head down then?
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 20:59:15 »
They share the same blocks (both 3 and 5 bearings), same timing cover and timing chain assembly too I think.  Same sump as well.  The differences begin with the crank, the head is different and other lots of little bits.

But, in theory, it is possible to convert a 2.25 Petrol into a 2.25 Diesel and vice versa!  Why would anyone want to do that though is a bit of a question in its own right...  :-k

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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 22:05:47 »
 the lightweight i just bought should be a petrol but somebody has tried converting it, head is placed on with no hoses and exhaust not connected makes me think block was petrol.
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 22:16:06 »
If you could provide the engine number on the block, it will immediately tell us if it is a petrol or diesel block you have. The number is stamped just behind the water pump near where the inlet and exhaust manifolds should be.

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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 22:18:14 »
most very likely is a diesel has just been put in, loads of series are improper set-up and run with no rocker breather to carb, is it the right cover? does she run? new gasket, 3 top bolts n rubbers and might as well do tappets whilst there.
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 22:22:05 »
loads of series are improper set-up and run with no rocker breather to carb
Motors prior to the Series 3 didn't have any breather recirculation systems fitted from the factory.  :P

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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 22:28:35 »
 It doesnt run and dont think it ever has as a deisel, no head bolts no rocker cover bolts and no injectors think it was one of those start but dont finish projects
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 22:36:06 »
loads of series are improper set-up and run with no rocker breather to carb
Motors prior to the Series 3 didn't have any breather recirculation systems fitted from the factory.  :P

yeah i said that badly, i mean ones with webers blanked off, and rocker breathers just pumping it out!

It doesnt run and dont think it ever has as a deisel, no head bolts no rocker cover bolts and no injectors think it was one of those start but dont finish projects

If thats the case you might be better off buying a working diesel lump or petrol if you want!, could be cheaper n easier!?
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 22:39:33 »
 Found several cheap complete lumps both petrol and deisel but would mean travelling the length of the country to get them and in a TD5 disco thats not cheap
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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 17:52:19 »
I know where there's a diesel s3 lump in Northants going spare- mail me if interested.

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Re: deisel to petrol
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 23:36:13 »
Cheers for the offer but just purchased a petrol unit along with an oil cooler , radiator, gearbox and steering box for a grand total of £62 off eblag, so its back to petrol for this little lightweight.
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