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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2008, 14:51:22 »
I agree with the ARB, I'm going to be fitting one in the rear axel just to help out a little when I get stuck, I'm only running 31's and I don't want to change to the drive of the car, I just want a little extra traction when I need it, and an air compressor will be handy to.
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2008, 18:06:36 »
120mph in a lifted disco on standard brakes? Dave, for this reason if no other, I'm glad your miles away from the roads me and my family use pal. I've never been past 85 in mine and then about once.  :police:

85 that 3rd gear  :lol: :lol: :lol: for me and yes drilled and vented brakes our on the list to do

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2008, 21:26:14 »
we have rolling road printouts of 199 hp out of our TD5 we got to 125.......it weren't a nice experience
steve-o i can see your going down the same road you did before you changed your screen name. stop chatting crap, and stop talking about other things to distract people from things YOU have said, admit you were wrong no one is going to hold it against you. i don't like being like this but some things have to be said! the forum is about exchanging information and opinion, asking for help etc. its not about who is the best. if you talk BS on here you will get pulled up on it! i don't mean to sound like a cock but i think with this said things may run more smoothly from now on.
again sorry but that's how i feel!

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2008, 22:31:09 »
sorry mate,i agree boss unless you have proof of course??????
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2008, 22:32:43 »
proof of what?

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2008, 23:39:05 »
proof of what?

that he has 300 ponies under the bonnet
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2008, 00:04:49 »
we have rolling road printouts of 199 hp out of our TD5 we got to 125.......it weren't a nice experience


I bet it wasn't! Not sure if the gearing is higher on a TD5 but I wouldn't take mine over 90 (on a track or rolling road). It'd probably do it, but I don't like to rev over 3k for any length of time and I would never even try to go past 4k.

Thing is, they're not geared for it. There's a reason the genuinely quick 4x4s out there have 500bhp or so and a lot of torque, it's so they can pull higher gears. A tweaked TDI can give them a bit of a shock at legal speeds because it has shorter gearing, but it'll fall behind when they speed up.

Can you guess I've been thinking about this for that 500bhp Cayenne-killing Disco sleeper project (that is unlikely to ever be built, but it's an interesting thought experiment and a man can dream)  :lol:
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2008, 07:57:59 »
Boss  :clap:

MrA, I think I may hate you for bringing up this thread, all I do at the moment is browse the t'internet looking at air lockers, I've been trying to ignore the desire to buy one as my other half will leave me if I spend any more money on the truck
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2008, 19:01:56 »
Get one bought you know you want to!!!!

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2008, 20:00:12 »
Boss  :clap:

MrA, I think I may hate you for bringing up this thread, all I do at the moment is browse the t'internet looking at air lockers, I've been trying to ignore the desire to buy one as my other half will leave me if I spend any more money on the truck

ahhhh you see buddy, she cant see the lockers there fore they don't exist!  :lol:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2008, 20:41:42 »
I have got an ARB and swear by it - it can easily handle the 320bhp that my TDi has.

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2008, 21:32:59 »
bah! 320 my TDI has so much power that if i put my foot down i dont wheel spin the earth spins :afro: :lol:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2008, 21:38:28 »
really wow?

what mods have you done to yours?

on mine I have removed the EGR, tweaked the fuel pump and fitted a K&N sticker to the slam panel.

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2008, 21:52:38 »
well what you do is take the head off and cram around 8 3/4 large-ish ponies in there then mount the gear box in the passinger seat which as we all know doubles the power, sacrifice a small goat on the dash THEN put the k&n sticker in! your doing it all wrong!  :lol: :lol:
i would have more i just dont fancy dirving through halfords as thetford is a rough old place full of people with planet moving cars!

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2008, 23:00:32 »
the detriot locker is just basically a limited slip diff isnt it? as one wheel spins it locks the other to it?

Not a limited slip, more like an auto unlocker. There are no gears in the middle of a detriot, just a couple of toothed clutches, which are normally engadged unless one wheel wants to over run (like when turning a corner). They are designed so that only one clutch can disengaged at time. This link has a good picture of the internals
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/Detroit-Locker-automatic-lockers.htm


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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2008, 23:05:57 »
sorry, don't get it, spoilt the joke me thinks. i am not on pirate....well i am but then realised it was full of americants! :lol:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2008, 23:20:26 »
Basically from the little time I've spent on, it would appear what americans like more than beer and guns is ripping urine out of each other and the most common used smiley is one waving fingers. Still not as bad as another car forum where memebers started digging up personal info on a poster that was trying to get people to use his online gambling site, but still I wouldn't like to be on the reciving end of some of it.

Its still worth a visit mind because when they are being civilised some of the memebrs build some jaw droppingly awsome off roaders.
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2008, 07:12:00 »
well what you do is take the head off and cram around 8 3/4 large-ish ponies in there then mount the gear box in the passinger seat which as we all know doubles the power, sacrifice a small goat on the dash THEN put the k&n sticker in! your doing it all wrong!  :lol: :lol:
i would have more i just dont fancy dirving through halfords as thetford is a rough old place full of people with planet moving cars!

Everyone knows that there are a handful of tried and trusted methods for turning any car into a tarmac-melting rocketship:

"Shopping list" of parts suppliers down the front doors. You don't need to have bought any of the parts, the stickers alone will give at least 20-40bhp each.

Rear wing/spoiler. Even on a front wheel drive car this will improve handling. Don't let anyone tell you that aerodynamic aids only start to make a difference at over 100mph. You can even just fit the supports and leave the wing itself off!

"Universal fit" back box the size of a dustbin. Never mind that the pipe it's connected to is still tiny, noise is power! The same goes for universal induction kits from Argos/Halfords. Worth at least 60bhp.

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2008, 07:49:52 »
your forgeting the most important accesory  wearing the baseball cap back to front and being gobby  :shock:
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2008, 07:53:23 »
Well I've just got into work and sat and read a few more posts and  :clap: I'm currently pmsl  :grin:
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2008, 18:01:30 »
that is the stupidest thing i have ever seen! who ever buys one of them is a mug!
anyways, i have just taken the wires out for a kenlow that wasn't there(anymore) as we all know its not just power its weight as well! i reckon with that 25oz of crap removed i think i have bought my 0-60 time down to damn near 2.0000008586001 seconds and my power to weight ratio to 5000BEP per ton :shock:
.........that's right its so powerfull i have had to cancel the numbers of horses down to elephants! :lol:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2008, 18:19:05 »
On a serious note, I know one of the big turbo manufacturers has been experimenting with motorised turbos. They work as per usual, just with a small motor to start them spinning. Supposedly this reduces lag as the turbo is already turning at a useful speed when the exhaust gases take over from the motor.

I fancy a ball-bearing turbo for mine, apparently they're so free running you can spin them just by blowing into the intake. Mind you, considering the 300TDI tends to melt if you go much over standard boost pressure I'm not sure there's much point!  :lol:
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2008, 18:29:39 »
Although this thread has gone way off topic, what do people think of KAM electronic locking diffs as another alternative?
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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2008, 19:33:08 »
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i have read so many threads and heard from so many people that they are a pain in the arse! there solenoid activated which as we all know can seize which is never a good thing! when it comes to things like this i always look at what other people are running because that is usually the best way to go....although i have been doing this allot lately and regretting it soon after......spec lists are almost identical!

and yes i have seen the electric turbo things before i have also noticed that allot of them require a hell of a lot of juice to power them. is it worth it?

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2008, 22:05:11 »
arb seems to be the most said  oh haynes manual shows how to fit one .

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2008, 22:31:40 »
that manual was [!Expletive Deleted!]! it hasnt helped me at all!

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2008, 22:46:14 »
i agree the pics are more use then words just ...... least it wasnt black and white  :roll:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2008, 22:50:24 »
with lockers on it that a serious piece of kit however what happens when the grip runs out .  :-$ where that rollcage u where gonna make a few months back anyway  :roll:

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Re: Arb diff lock or detroit locker?
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2008, 22:53:04 »
attach the winch and hope. the cage isnt happening at the moment, cant get it out the garage with out the hoop on it scraping the door :shocked:. also need the tooling and a diecint welder so im probibly going to take it to north offroad.

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