Disco TD5 info needed

[SWEETY]

Hi guy's :DI was wondering if you could give me some info/advise please [-o<I'm going to have a look at a few TD5's over the next few days & was wondering if you can tell me what to look out for & where to check as I would hate to buy a dogs because if we do go for one we'll be skint :( :( :( whats the MPG like as i'm getting between 26-29mpg from my Terrano at the min. Will I be spending most of my time & money fixing it. It's use will be the family motor with weekend out green laning.
Thanks for any advise guy's
Neil

[boss]

our TD5 usually gets 25-30 with 200hp running through it. when you do get it i would stay away from autos(something wrong with sensor positions) i would also look into silicone hoses and the egr removal, the hyclone things have also definitively been proven to work on them (by me and my dad) we also have a few bits(well, allot) floating around like 4 18" allots with general grabber at2 on them we also got a 2" lift kit and 2 or 3 ecu replacements(chipped)
over all i rate them very highly.

[boss]

also, they are not fitted with difflocks, they took the lug off of the gear boxes to mount them on after 2000 so if your doing alot of offroading get a pre 2000.

[Jimbo]

also, they are not fitted with difflocks, they took the lug off of the gear boxes to mount them on after 2000 so if your doing alot of offroading get a pre 2000.

IIRC, the last few D2's had difflock re-instated !

I've had an auto D2 for a few years now, it's now done over 108000 miles and the 'box is still fine - regular autobox oil and filter changes has kept it sweet (although LR don't recommend changing the autobox oil until the 80k service !)

Other things to check :-

do the sunrooves leak ?
do all the toys work, leccy mirrors, windows, sunrooves (on some versions), central locking etc
does the ACE work - active cornering enhancement
does the SLS work  - self levelling (rear) suspension, if the SLS pump runs (with the engine on) for a long time its an indication that there is an air leak in the pipework, or one/both of the airbags is leaking - about £100 for one bag, easy to change at home.

Is the coolant nice and clean - look for signs of coolant being expelled from the expansion tank, as this may indicate that the head gasket is starting to go.

If you've got anymore questions please ask, I'm sure one of us will be able to answer.

Jim

[SWEETY]

It's 2000 X plates i'm looking at :roll: TBH I thought they all had a centre diff lock :oops: if it has will it be marked on the gear knob ?The ACE am I right in thinking if it's working the truck should be firm in the corners without much body roll ? SLS could you poss tell roughly how long is ok ?
Sorry for all the Q's it's just i've never really had anything to do with Disco's apart from doing some warranty trim work on one when they 1st ever came out

[Jimbo]

I had a W plate - and that did not have difflock, but it did have the all-important 'spigot' on the top of the transfer case, which meant that I could have fitted one of the after-market kits to enable me to use the difflock - but, I never really found a need for it, the traction control got me out of most problems............all other 'situations' required a tow  :oops:

SLS - when you say how long, do you mean the extra height gained when you press the magic button ? IIRC, SLS was normally only fitted as standard to 7 seaters (all 7 seater D2's should have SLS - was part of the homologation), it was a factory extra on the 5 seaters. SLS is not like the air-sus on P38's, from the button on the dash you can only raise the rear of the vehicle an extra few inches, press the button again and normal height is resumed. You can pay through the nose for an extra button on the key fob, and that gives you the facility to reduce the ride height by a few inches - in theory, to enable you to hook up a trailer/caravan whose hitch is lower than the height of your tow hitch. In both cases, once you drive off and get to 20mph, the vehicle automatically returns to the standard ride height.

ACE - yes, find a quiet roundabout or decent bend and see how the body doesnt roll. A vibrating noise when the ACE activates can be down to a stone lodged behind the ACE valve block, which sits up beside the O/S chassis rail - right under the drivers door.

[boss]

the diff lock was an optional extra. my dad payed £250 for one from ashcroft. as i say, we have many parts including a full air system. the CDL is not essential but it IS better than the traction controle if you have both it will be almost unstopable! major advantage in winch challenges as you can essentially enter in class1 (winch, no after market traction aides) and go places everyone else cant! the ace is a very efficient system it is another advantage the D2 has, you can lift it as much as you want(provided the ace rods are extended enough) maintain good road manners but because it all decouples you get massive amounts of axle travel off road with out removing anti roll bars.

[SWEETY]

I've been & had a look at a couple today & have noticed that they all seam to have an oil leak at the back of the engine where it meets the g/box :shock:is this something to worry about & is it easy fixed as I hate oil leaks

[diggerdog36]

I hate oil leaks

Dont buy a land rover then!!!  Mine leaks a tiny bit there too, I only worry when it doesnt leak oil, because that means its ran out!!!

[SWEETY]

I hate oil leaks

Dont buy a land rover then!!!  Mine leaks a tiny bit there too, I only worry when it doesnt leak oil, because that means its ran out!!!

 :lol: :lol: :lol:Yeah I know what they are like m8 they do their own oil changes :lol: The few i've seen look quiet bad so it got me wondering :roll:

[Jimbo]

I've been & had a look at a couple today & have noticed that they all seam to have an oil leak at the back of the engine where it meets the g/box :shock:is this something to worry about & is it easy fixed as I hate oil leaks

I just replaced the injector loom in mine - you take the rocker cover off, and it's all so easy..........until you come to put the rocker cover back on, the thick rubber gasket is a pig to get to sit in place - right at the back, there's a big bit of rubber that seals a big 'open hole' in the head casting - mine has been leaking oil from here for some time, the little sound-deadening panel that bolts to the back of the head (and is virtually impossible to remove) is quite soaked in oil...........this may be where the oil is coming from on the ones you've looked at - the gasket is about a tenner, you just need patience to replace it !

[SWEETY]

What can I say but thanks guy's for all your help :P :P :PHad a look at a X plate TD5 today in the pooring rain :roll: but from the looks of the gear stick & steering wheel it must have been a high miler, 4 almost bald tyres & quiet a bit of rot above the windscreen, back door hinges did'nt look that good & they wanted 7K for it :roll:shame really as it had all the toys :'(

[DogVanMan]

What can I say but thanks guy's for all your help :P :P :PHad a look at a X plate TD5 today in the pooring rain :roll: but from the looks of the gear stick & steering wheel it must have been a high miler, 4 almost bald tyres & quiet a bit of rot above the windscreen, back door hinges did'nt look that good & they wanted 7K for it :roll:shame really as it had all the toys :'(

Funnily enough I just replaced the cam cover gasket on my TD5 Defender. 105k miles, year 2000. It was leaking a little. The rubber gasket was noticeably harder than the new one.. I guess they harden with age and start to leak a little.. Same place as yours Sweety, at the cast hole at the back and a little on the right hand side.

G

[SWEETY]

I had a W plate - and that did not have difflock, but it did have the all-important 'spigot' on the top of the transfer case, which meant that I could have fitted one of the after-market kits to enable me to use the difflock - but, I never really found a need for it, the traction control got me out of most problems............all other 'situations' required a tow  :oops:

I was wondering if anyone had a pic of this Spigot or a link to a pic so I know what to look out for as I'd like to have the option to fit CDL if I felt I needed it or when funds allow :D

[boss]

i dont think you can see it.
there is a date where they took it off(probibly mentioned above) but if you are to buy one that would be one of the first things to do! you thought about tyres?

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

I hate oil leaks

Dont buy a land rover then!!!  Mine leaks a tiny bit there too, I only worry when it doesnt leak oil, because that means its ran out!!!

there just marking there ground thats all  :lol:

[SWEETY]

i dont think you can see it.
there is a date where they took it off(probibly mentioned above) but if you are to buy one that would be one of the first things to do! you thought about tyres?

I would have to fit AT's & prob Falken ones at that as I've got the on my Terrano now & they have been fantastic & they have'nt worn very much & I drive it like a hot hatch :lol: :lol: :oops:
Is it a big job to fit a CDL do you know

[boss]

it is not a job i would want to do put it that way. if your after some ATs we have some on D2 alloys going cheap(sorry i keep trying to sell you stuff!)

[SWEETY]

it is not a job i would want to do put it that way. if your after some ATs we have some on D2 alloys going cheap(sorry i keep trying to sell you stuff!)

:lol: :lol: :lol:Don't worry Boss if I do get one you may become my parts shop :lol: :lol: :lol: I have been told that to fit a CDL you can swap the transfer box off a S1 Disco onto the S2 if that is the case then as my Son is just starting out as a Mechanic he may get the it to do in time with alot of help from me :roll:

[Jimbo]

i dont think you can see it.
there is a date where they took it off(probibly mentioned above) but if you are to buy one that would be one of the first things to do! you thought about tyres?

Ah, but you can see - although you need to take the inside of the truck apart, but you can feel for it from underneath. Hopefully this link to a page on Ashcrofts website will show a piccie of a LT230 x-fer box, the spigot is the little thing sticking up just above and to the right of the front output flange - there's a far better description on the website.

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_8.html

Jim

[steve lewis]

ive got a d2 es manual, its been as good as gold apart from a new gear box (under warranty) new suspension compressor & height sensors, new abs sensors.........the list goes on, still got as the main dealer where i brought it from offered my peanuts for it against my D3.

[SWEETY]

Ah, but you can see - although you need to take the inside of the truck apart, but you can feel for it from underneath. Hopefully this link to a page on Ashcrofts website will show a piccie of a LT230 x-fer box, the spigot is the little thing sticking up just above and to the right of the front output flange - there's a far better description on the website.

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_8.html

Jim

Many thanks for that Jimbo :PAll I will have to do  know is go out feeling up transfer boxes to see if they have a type of nipple on them :lol: :lol: :lol:
I might go for just a 5 seater as the 6&7th seats would be removed anyway to make way for my sound system :roll:Do the  5 seaters have the air suspension ?I might be wrong here but i'm sure i've read in the past that the air set up can be replaced with good old springs :?
Anyway thanks again to all of you's as you have been a great help with all of my Q's no matter how silly they may have been :roll: :clap: :clap:

[boss]

the higher spec ones were fitted with air and yes you can ditch the air...reletiveley straightforward task. but taking the gearbox/t/box out is apparentley a little more difficult on a d2, i dont know why but thats what i was told. disco parts also do the CDL kit dont buy the solinoid activated one as i hear they jam!